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‘We are Q’: A deranged conspiracy cult leaps from the Internet to the crowd at Trump’s ‘MAGA’ tour
Washington comPost ^ | August 1, 2018 | Isaac Stanley-Becker

Posted on 08/01/2018 8:35:01 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: FreeReign

The partially redacted declassified FISA documents that were released were not the result of a FOIA application.

If you know different, you should be able to provide an official link to such FOIA application that was PROCESSED AND APPROVED for otherwise anyone can make a FOIA application but it does not mean the application will be reviewed and approved.


81 posted on 08/01/2018 12:04:34 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Q Fringe))
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To: Hostage

Very good info. Appreciated.


82 posted on 08/01/2018 12:31:42 PM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc (BE A REBEL. JOIN THE ALL CAPS FREE REPUBLIC CLUB not)
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To: Hostage
I said FOIA doesn't cover "classified information". I never said that FOIA doesn't cover FISA information. The documents were released by standard FOIA procedure. A FOIA request was made for FISA docs. The DOJ redacted classified information from the FISA docs. The newly unclassified, redacted docs were then released. Why do you think that this is not what happened?

The partially redacted declassified FISA documents that were released were not the result of a FOIA application. If you know different, you should be able to provide an official link to such FOIA application that was PROCESSED AND APPROVED for otherwise anyone can make a FOIA application but it does not mean the application will be reviewed and approved.

So you have no evidence that shows that FOIA standard procedures weren't followed.

The DOJ initially refused JW's FISA request. So JW sued the DOJ

It was in April that the DOJ relented and told the court that it was “processing for potential redaction and release certain FISA materials related to Carter Page”. The DOJ agreed to a production schedule to be completed by, July 20, 2018.

Link

83 posted on 08/01/2018 12:31:43 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Hostage; rolling_stone
The big Q drop of July was the OFFICIAL declassification and release of the FISA documents. That is BIG because it is ADMISSABLE in a court of law.

The DOJ agreed to declassify and release by July 20th. They made that agreement in court, in April.

So what's the big drop??

84 posted on 08/01/2018 12:35:37 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I expected you would do that.

You haven’t been paying attention to the timeline.

It was the DOJ just 48 hours ago that released the damning FISA docs. The earlier JW ones from weeks ago were so redacted as to be useless.

https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/30/americans-need-clear-answers-on-fisa-abuse

So I’ll put ‘FreeReign’ on a list of mediocre researchers. And yes, that can be construed as an ‘attack’ by some whereas I categorize it as an apt summary description.

Rant Away!


85 posted on 08/01/2018 12:38:40 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Q Fringe))
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To: FreeReign

Timeline is your friend. Yours is incomplete.


86 posted on 08/01/2018 12:40:21 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Q Fringe))
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

(”Trust Sessions” is not a plan. It is subversion of Trump by useful idiots. Fire the DOJ 3 stooges!!)


Did you see the sea of Q signs and posters at the rally last night? Seriously, if Q was an outsider trying to damage Trump, why would he not stop it?

All it would take is one tweet. “Q Anon is fake news.” That’s it, it would be over in less than 30 sec.

Honestly, the only logical reason Trump would have for not putting a stop to this movement, is if he knows who Q is.

Can you come up with any other reason POTUS would continue to let deep state, or some teenager in moms basement influence his supporters.


87 posted on 08/01/2018 12:52:16 PM PDT by Beer30 (Every man has to believe something. I believe I'll have another beer.)
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To: Hostage
The DOJ initially refused JW's FISA request. So JW sued the DOJ It was in April that the DOJ relented and told the court that it was “processing for potential redaction and release certain FISA materials related to Carter Page”. The DOJ agreed to a production schedule to be completed by, July 20, 2018.

It was the DOJ just 48 hours ago that released the damning FISA docs.

That doesn't contradict anything that I said. The DOJ promised the court that they would release by July 20th. A few days after that they got the redacted docs.

The earlier JW ones from weeks ago were so redacted as to be useless.

My timeline comes straight from the JW website. I gave you the link. The link that you provided doesn't in any way contradict what I said.

So I’ll put ‘FreeReign’ on a list of mediocre researchers...

I'm going to put Hostage on the Q-tard list.

Your supposed profound Q Drop didn't add any new information.

88 posted on 08/01/2018 1:04:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Hostage; FreeReign
President Trump with his tweets declassified the existence of the FISA warrants. Then when he declassified the Nunes Memo, that allowed a FOIA request to be honored..President Trump did not directly declassify the FISA warrant/application. It is a function of FOIA law, if public in one place it is public everywhere:

.....Normally, even the existence of applications for warrants issued under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) would be classified – but the Trump administration took the unusual step of declassifying them as part of the Nunes Memo in order to further its case against the Mueller investigation.

Trump’s goal may have been to selectively release only information that buttressed his campaign against the FBI and Mueller, but the law doesn’t work that way. Once things are declassified, they’re declassified. So right after the Nunes Memo was released, American Oversight and Dominique Bravo filed two Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests with DOJ’s National Security Division and the FBI: one seeking the FISA applications themselves, and one seeking the identities of the DOJ attorneys who submitted them and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) judges who approved them....

https://www.americanoversight.org/nunes-memo-declassified-carter-page-fisa-applications-suing-release

89 posted on 08/01/2018 1:06:07 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: FreeReign

JW is a sideshow whose FOIA acquisitions in this matter are not strong enough to carry the day in court.

The boom was lowered when DOJ released evidence last week IN RESPONSE TO THE JUNE 28TH H. RES. 970 SUBPOENAING FISA SURVEILLANCE and which were partially, in turn, made public by Congress just very recently.

You are chasing after JW which is the wrong entity because as a FOIA mill they will never be able to get docs that are strong enough to hang the coup plotters. Only those with the power to declassify selected material portions can do that. That would be the White House Oval Office downstream to DOJ.

Prior to that, there was only speculation that FISA documents pinned the witch hunt on coup plotters. After the President tweeted yesterday, there is no more cloud over the role of the coup plotters. They are exposed in the clear now and cannot hide behind clouded speculative interpretation. The President’s Tweet made it clear they are 100% culpable.

That was the BIG drop of July.

And the reason you are not on board with it is that you are looking to second-string FOIA mills like JW or Mockingbird MSM outlets to affirm your prewired conclusion that nothing happened in July, therefore Q is a LARP.

You are looking in the wrong places.


90 posted on 08/01/2018 1:24:36 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Q Fringe))
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To: Hostage

when and where are these documents congress made public recently?


91 posted on 08/01/2018 2:02:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: Yo-Yo

You know, I’m starting to believe Q for the simple fact that the mainstream media is so against it. They are trying too hard to make it seem kooky and fringe.


92 posted on 08/01/2018 2:04:17 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Yo-Yo

Oh...one more thing. I play euchre on a euchre app. This app allows chat and you can have a picture or an avatar for yourself. Yesterday I saw a guys avatar with a picture of a burning Q and the name qanon. I said “Q”...he said “Provide sec clearance”. I said “MAGA”. HE said “right!”


93 posted on 08/01/2018 2:06:11 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Blogger; Yo-Yo

Well, according to yo-yo you are a moron.

Narcissistic people do not like the “why” question.

Q asks questions which engages a person to problem solve and come to their own conclusion. To label others as morons because they made a choice that is not inline with theirs is arrogance.

I have been following Q (I am a moron too) and I believe in a lot that has come out regarding what Q has posted.

The NSA, CIA, all these secret intelligence and means to collect info do exist and I believe that the 8chan means to communicate is ingenious. Back in the days of spying, I believe they would communicate through printed articles in newspapers and magazines. Has anyone watched the FX Series “The Americans”? It shows many methods used to communicate in the 1980’s, so why not with today’s tech? MSM is corrupt, twitter and FB have no scruples, Trump can only use Twitter so far, so it makes sense for someone to have come up with 8chan! During my days in the service we sometimes communicated with squelchs over the PRC.

People make mistakes and people change, to hold Q to a level of prophet is preposterous, but Q has something and one misses out on some good evidence and truth if they decide to not even consider what Q mentions.


94 posted on 08/01/2018 2:38:04 PM PDT by klimeckg
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To: rolling_stone

Thanks. I would hate to think I have been prosecuting criminals all this time with being licensed to practice law!


95 posted on 08/01/2018 2:43:15 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: klimeckg; Blogger
Well, according to yo-yo you are a moron.

Whoa! I never called anyone a moron, nor would I.

96 posted on 08/01/2018 2:47:17 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: DouglasKC
Yesterday I saw a guys avatar with a picture of a burning Q and the name qanon. I said “Q”...he said “Provide sec clearance”. I said “MAGA”. HE said “right!”

Fake Q. The only correct response to "MAGA" is "WWG1WGA."

97 posted on 08/01/2018 2:48:23 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo; jpsb

Sorry Yo-yo I read it wrong it was JPSB


98 posted on 08/01/2018 2:52:05 PM PDT by klimeckg
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To: Blogger; Yo-Yo; jpsb

Correction.

Well, according to JPSB you are a moron.

Narcissistic people do not like the “why” question.

Q asks questions which engages a person to problem solve and come to their own conclusion. To label others as morons because they made a choice that is not inline with theirs is arrogance.

I have been following Q (I am a moron too) and I believe in a lot that has come out regarding what Q has posted.

The NSA, CIA, all these secret intelligence and means to collect info do exist and I believe that the 8chan means to communicate is ingenious. Back in the days of spying, I believe they would communicate through printed articles in newspapers and magazines. Has anyone watched the FX Series “The Americans”? It shows many methods used to communicate in the 1980’s, so why not with today’s tech? MSM is corrupt, twitter and FB have no scruples, Trump can only use Twitter so far, so it makes sense for someone to have come up with 8chan! During my days in the service we sometimes communicated with squelchs over the PRC.

People make mistakes and people change, to hold Q to a level of prophet is preposterous, but Q has something and one misses out on some good evidence and truth if they decide to not even consider what Q mentions.


99 posted on 08/01/2018 2:54:20 PM PDT by klimeckg
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To: rolling_stone

https://vault.fbi.gov/d1-release/d1-release/view

JW’s version was more redacted and did not show clearly that the FISA warrants rested on the bogus Steele dossier. Their documents left it to the ‘imagination’ of those reading. Artful ‘imagination’ will get one thrown out of court. So the JW docs are worthless.

But the release to Congress, although still heavily redacted, shows clearly that the FISA warrants were politically obtained based on false pretenses. That implicates DOJ, FBI, Hillary, Obama. That is more than enough probable cause to take into court and open up a comprehensive discovery proceeding against the perpetrators.

The FOIA release to JW is a dud.

The release to Congress is a bomb (lethal but contained).

That is what the BIG drop for July was, as anti-climactic or innocuous as it may seem. It’s BIG because it forges an opening to a legal process, discovery, and investigation.

The other ‘releases’ and gossip mongering could never even get into court. But this release facilitated by POTUS rips the door open and will bring pain. It starts that process.

It’s only beginning, only entering a real clash on the battlefield. Prior to this, there were a lot of sabers rattling. This most recent release is a real attack with a movement that will bring prosecution on the plotters. It will still take a little time to see the first casualties.

POTUS still has much, much more to declassify at his option. Nunes states Rosenstein is protected by what is still redacted.

All of this was forecast long ago in Q drops, from the role of RR to the expected heavy redactions.

It is noted that RR released docs to Congress before JW obtained their heavily redacted FISA docs. POTUS always had the fully unredacted docs. Q alluded that POTUS could see what RR was hiding.

The value of Q is in knowing and anticipating what anti-Trump actors will do when the ‘news’, the Mockingbirds, channel their version to the masses Because of Q a significant contingent of the masses will be alert, ‘woke’, and they won’t be fooled.

As Q has posted multiple times FUTURE PROVES PAST, and that has been made abundantly evident.

What is happening now was expected; “Attacks to intensify”.

The Mockingbirds are now attacking Q, why? Because their strategy is to suppress the news of the recently POTUS arranged FISA declass and release (which puts the illegal spying onto the real battlefield of justice), to suppress that and simultaneously condition the public, to shape the narrative that Q supporters are a fringe, deranged cult who claim HILLARY DRINKS BABY BLOOD.

All of this foretold by Q. The Q phenom gives a map of the battlefield which is helpful to those that do not trust Hillary, Obama, and the corrupt status quo aka deep state AND WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CONFUSION DRIVEN BY SCRIPTWRITERS WORKING FOR MOCKINGBIRDS.


100 posted on 08/01/2018 2:59:28 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Q Fringe))
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