And say what you want about FDR. But he made damn sure Americans remembered Pearl Harbor. Contrast that with George W. Bush, who told us that "Islam is peace".
Posted on 07/27/2018 7:38:37 AM PDT by rktman
Good point.
Those tics are more annoying than what she says.
5.56mm
Then we looked into the matter.
And say what you want about FDR. But he made damn sure Americans remembered Pearl Harbor. Contrast that with George W. Bush, who told us that "Islam is peace".
And it happened on GWB’s watch. Yeah, Clinton could have taken out OBL, but the man in the seat at the time is the one with whom the buck stops, and GWB was as epic a failure as anyone before him. Bastard held hands with Saudis (who made up almost all of the hijackers) and got us into wars with folks who DIDN’T attack us.
And the Holocaust was just a misunderstanding, right Nan?
Or simply a dispute
> GWB was as epic a failure as anyone before him <
Yep. Back in 2000 the Democrats told us that George W. Bush was a doofus who should be kept far away from the White House. It turns out that the Democrats were right.
So was Gore a better choice? That (ugly) question would lead to some really spirited discussion here! Gore would have appointed terrible judges. And he would have busted the budget even more than W did.
But on the other hand, I doubt that Gore would have invaded Iraq. And without a President Bush there probably never would have been a President Obama.
I do think the invasion of Iraq was arguably the dumbest (most counterproductive and involving great expenditure for little gain) thing we have done as a nation. Outside of completely devastating them, occupying them and rebuilding the country from the ground up it was a fool’s errand. You can’t ‘nation build’ in a place with no tradition of democracy. ‘What worked in Germany and Japan was never going to work in Iraq. An army is good for killing people and breaking things. If we were going to go kill people and break things we should do it in the hotbed of wahhabism.
> I do think the invasion of Iraq was arguably the dumbest (most counterproductive and involving great expenditure for little gain) thing we have done as a nation. <
Agreed. Shortly after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, I read an article about the situation in the Middle East. The author was an expert on the Muslim world.
He took no position on the legality of the invasion. But he did say that if you invade a Muslim nation, you damn well had better defeat them completely. Because otherwise you will have awoken a sleeping giant that will hound you for years.
Yep, he was right.
And I will even go a step further. If Bush had left Iraq alone, there would most probably be no massive Muslim “immigration” to Europe today. Bush upset the apple cart, and now those apples are rolling all over the place.
Not a 'matter'?
Well, after nearly 17 years, what difference does it make?
No, had Bush lost in 2000, we would not have run him again in 2004, and his only serious competition in 2000 was rat bastard McManchurian, who ended up as our nominee in 2008, so Gore-BS would have been a 1 term pResident, and we would have had McQeeg as pResident in 2004 and probably reelected in 2008, with Mittens as our nominee again in 2012 against Hillary, and Hillary probably would have won, and if so, would have gotten reelected in 2016 … so as much as I consider Busch a disaster, and hated the 8 years of Bam Bam, we are in a better position today because he won.
I do think the invasion of Iraq was arguably the dumbest (most counterproductive and involving great expenditure for little gain) thing we have done as a nation.
I said that before we did it. I also said similar things about the Patriot Act and it’s consequences should another administration abuse it. But what do I know? I’m just some dumb deplorable from VT.
Pelosi is one of the smartest? politicians in America...She has been in office over 100 years?
Hell, I vividly remember getting flamed for opposing the PATRIOT act at the time. Idiots (HERE!) spouting ‘If you aren’t doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about’... Still bitter over that; any alleged ‘conservative’ who didn’t oppose it deserved to have Obama and Holder crawling up their bunghole.
I got that too from my “peers”.
Nancy an incident is a fender bender, 9/11 was a terrorist attack. Are you a moron, or just play one to keep your job in you dumbass district?
If Gore won in 2000, I believe that there wouldn’t be a President Trump today. The tea party would not be around. The GOPe would still be in control...
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