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Hawaii and California's Huge Second Amendment Victory
Townhall.com ^ | July 27, 2018 | John R. Lott Jr

Posted on 07/27/2018 5:28:26 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/27/2018 5:28:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Better practice your quick draw skills. Isaac Azimov’s Cave of Steel shows a 3 Musketeers like society in which only the blade or the pistol affords social order.


2 posted on 07/27/2018 5:43:57 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Kaslin

The eight state link doesn’t work. I am guessing Hawaii, California, New Jersey, Illinois, Connecticut, New York, Maryland and....Massachusetts? Rhode Island?


3 posted on 07/27/2018 5:47:15 AM PDT by MSF BU
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To: CharlesOConnell
I'm all in for the 2nd amendment ... HOWEVER I will always think open carry, though LEGAL is stupid. Men playing cowboys and Indians, look at me I have a gun, bling. Concealed is safer for for everybody.

And just to underline the 2nd...every citizen should be forced to "bear arms"...see how the control freaks like living under a "law" THEY don't like like we had to.

4 posted on 07/27/2018 5:59:52 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: Kaslin

“The decision only applies to districts under the 9th Circuit’s jurisdiction,“

And yet a single 9th Circuit judge can make his immigration ruling apply nationwide.

Seems right.

L


5 posted on 07/27/2018 6:07:16 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Agreed. Open carry invites disarms. What will prevent someone from grabbing a visible gun? (and please, no one say ‘buckled holster’)


6 posted on 07/27/2018 6:11:05 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Guess you’ve never owned a business or a farm. What do you care if someone carries openly? Your opinion is wrong and based on fear and ignorance.


7 posted on 07/27/2018 6:14:03 AM PDT by dinodino
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With the Ninth Circus, it ain't over 'til it's over en banc.

The forces of gun control will clamor for a rehearing of the case before an 11-judge panel.

8 posted on 07/27/2018 6:20:51 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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You sound like a snowflake, next you will be complaining that concealed carry is a ‘honey trap’ and some one got shot because if they knew the person was armed they wouldn’t have accosted them.


9 posted on 07/27/2018 6:35:58 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dinodino; ThePatriotsFlag
Your opinion is wrong and based on fear and ignorance.

Both posts are limiting the viewpoint.

In most situations, open carry is dumb. Open carriers would probably be the first targets. For farm/rural settings, it makes more sense.

Make it legal, and let it take its course.

10 posted on 07/27/2018 6:38:44 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

If a person is bold enough to jump someone armed, what do you think they are willing to do to an unarmed person?


11 posted on 07/27/2018 6:38:58 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

> With the Ninth Circus, it ain’t over ‘til it’s over en banc. <

Right you are. This latest ruling was just made by a three-judge panel, two of whom are rather conservative. I predict that the entire Ninth Circuit will take this up, and they will overturn this panel’s ruling.

That’s just the way the Ninth Circuit rolls (until Trump can get a few of his own picks on it).


12 posted on 07/27/2018 6:49:11 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

> I will always think open carry, though LEGAL is stupid. <

I agree with you, but for different reasons. I feel open carry is unnecessarily provocative. Concealed carry should require no permit. That’s the 2A in action. It’s open carry that should require the permit.

Here’s why, by example. I live about a quarter of a mile from a high school. I can see it from my front porch. So let’s suppose I’m sitting on my front porch, and it’s 10 minutes before school lets out. A young man quickly walks past me heading towards the school, carrying a slung rifle.

What should I do? See something, say something? But he is really doing nothing wrong (I live in an open-carry state).

Bottom line: Firearms are in a way like erotica (or porno, if you wish). The Constitution acknowledges your right to carry such things around. But keep it concealed.


13 posted on 07/27/2018 6:59:29 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ShadowAce

Your statement assumes little to no adoption of open carry after it’s allowed. I presume that it would become fairly commonplace. Open carriers would not in that case be the first targets of violence, they’d be the least likely.


14 posted on 07/27/2018 7:00:06 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: MSF BU

Illinois has gotten much better. We passed CCW a few years ago and even the Trib had to admit it has gone well. There are several good apps available that can keep you informed on state laws.


15 posted on 07/27/2018 7:00:08 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

“An armed society is a polite society.” - Heinlein.


16 posted on 07/27/2018 7:19:34 AM PDT by Pecos (Better the one you have with you than the one you left at home.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

IIRC, when many states were eliminating obsolete laws, MA law enforcement was waiting at the doors of every church one Sunday. They arrested every male aged eighteen and older. It seems there was a law, from the days it was a colony, that required every male to carry a firearm whenever they left their domicile. Didn’t take long for that law to be repealed!


17 posted on 07/27/2018 7:30:16 AM PDT by FrodoBaggins
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To: dinodino
Your statement assumes little to no adoption of open carry after it’s allowed.

Which comes from experience.

18 posted on 07/27/2018 7:31:33 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Sorry, but I grew up in a rural area and open carry was common. That was a long time ago.


19 posted on 07/27/2018 7:32:38 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino
I also grew up in a rural setting. Guns were just another tool everyone had. However, I now live in a major city where open carry was recently allowed.

While I saw a few carriers, it was relatively rare, and the instances have gone down.

As I said previously, in a rural setting it makes more sense.

20 posted on 07/27/2018 7:41:32 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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