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California Supreme Court blocks proposal to split state in 3 from November ballot
Fox News ^ | July 18, 2018 | Gregg Re

Posted on 07/18/2018 2:17:41 PM PDT by jazusamo

The California Supreme Court on Wednesday blocked a proposal that would split the state into three from the November ballot.

The court wrote that it took the step “because significant questions have been raised regarding the proposition’s validity and because we conclude that the potential harm in permitting the measure to remain on the ballot outweighs the potential harm in delaying the proposition to a future election.”

Last week, an environmental group sued to have the measure removed from the ballot. To substantially alter the state's governance under the California constitution, the group argued, a constitutional convention would need to be called -- and that requires a supermajority of both houses of the state's legislature.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: blocksinitiative; cal3initiative; california; casupremecourt
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1 posted on 07/18/2018 2:17:41 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

We don need your steen-keen democracy…….


2 posted on 07/18/2018 2:18:54 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jazusamo

Can a State in this republic have it’s own civil war?


3 posted on 07/18/2018 2:20:58 PM PDT by Tenacious 1
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Lock and load then


4 posted on 07/18/2018 2:21:22 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Only if they keep it civil


5 posted on 07/18/2018 2:22:13 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: jazusamo

We’re not letting you choose for yourself. This is California!


6 posted on 07/18/2018 2:22:53 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: jazusamo

I wonder how the court defines “potential harm”


7 posted on 07/18/2018 2:23:58 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Indoctrination is often done under the shadow of a gun)
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To: jazusamo

This makes sense. Something of this magnitude would need to be handled at a state constitutional convention, not simply as a majority rule ballot measure.


8 posted on 07/18/2018 2:25:31 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: jazusamo

Fox site too annoying to read but I get the picture.


9 posted on 07/18/2018 2:28:59 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm)
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Nah, they’re just worried such a vote could set a precedent ... that after the millions of illegal aliens are “given” the right to vote by the ultra-far-Left California government they’ll vote to create a Nuevo Mexico state. A tyrannical state government cannot abide millions of “sure-votes” leaving ...


10 posted on 07/18/2018 2:29:15 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: txrefugee

...We don need your steen-keen democracy…

We don need your steen-keen Constitutions…
We don need your steen-keen Laws...
We don need your steen-keen Republic...


11 posted on 07/18/2018 2:30:45 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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12 posted on 07/18/2018 2:31:00 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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The Marxists RATs in the corrupt Assembly in Sacramento fear losing control of their voter fraud if Northern CA was separated from the Marxists and illegals in Southern CA.


13 posted on 07/18/2018 2:32:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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If the state goes anywhere near Red they’ll want to change it back to one state ,LOL


14 posted on 07/18/2018 2:34:40 PM PDT by butlerweave
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How dare the California Supreme Court dictate how many states Mexico wants to turn Mexifornia into.


15 posted on 07/18/2018 2:37:15 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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Like I’ve been saying since I first heard about this.
This will only happen if the RAT leadership in CA decides they want another 4 Senators.

If there is ANY chance they could be conservatives...it will never see the light of day.


16 posted on 07/18/2018 2:37:37 PM PDT by Zathras
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Four more demoncrap Senators.

Maybe it would not be a good idea?

17 posted on 07/18/2018 2:39:50 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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Apparently the California judges don’t believe in the Constitution of California.

The state Constitution clearly says that initiatives and proposals approved by general election ballots have the same force as the state Constitution. It’s like the voters amneding the state Constitution themselves by direct ballot initiatives and proprosals.

How then can the court claim the proposal is contrary to the state Constitution, when proposals and initiatives can alter the state Constitution; and that seems to be what the “living Constitution” judges are trying to stop - a change that would be imposed on them, not by the legislature, but by the people directly.

They did the same thing with the state proposal that established civil partnerships and banned “gay” marriage. The people changed the Constitituion by the iniative and proposal process and the “living Constitution” judges in California ruled against it.

Full disclosure: As far as whether or not I like the Cal 3 proposal, in regard to its details and planned outcome, no I don’t. I don’t like the manner of the split. But that is a dfifferent matter than the legalities of the proposal being on the ballot.


18 posted on 07/18/2018 2:40:48 PM PDT by Wuli
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There is a US Constitution question that they will run into:

Article IV, Section 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

In my view, the people themselves can act as their own legislature and make law, so I have no problem with the ballot question. The courts however, may not agree and may require the consent of the CA legislature.

And then they’d have to get permission from the Congress.


19 posted on 07/18/2018 2:41:06 PM PDT by cotton1706
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Forget Mexico, wall around California.
Sorry Jim, we will get you out to free America


20 posted on 07/18/2018 2:41:49 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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