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Florida Couple Gets to Keep Home's 'Starry' Paint Job Mayor Must Publicly Apologize for $10,000 Fine
Reason Magazine ^ | Jul. 18, 2018 | Eric Boehm

Posted on 07/18/2018 10:35:54 AM PDT by OddLane

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To: Balding_Eagle

Nothing was stolen. Do you feel like you’re entitled to dictate to your neighbor what he can do with his own property? That would be theft.


81 posted on 07/18/2018 5:01:17 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Balding_Eagle

They do. On their land, and their buildings.
Demanding that others limit what they do with their property to fit their desires is socialism.


82 posted on 07/18/2018 5:18:13 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Balding_Eagle

They didn’t “steal” anything.

Imagined value based on what people around you do is is an incidental benefit that sometimes acrues. It isn’t a “right” anymore than something like getting a free meal at the neighborhood restaurant when you return home from war is a right. It’s nice when you get it but it isn’t a right and demanding it like you are entitled is offensive. Quite properly so.


83 posted on 07/18/2018 5:27:26 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: simpson96

Private property is a wonderful thing. I don’t give a flip how my neighbors paint their property.


84 posted on 07/18/2018 5:51:50 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: FXRP

Ditto.


85 posted on 07/18/2018 6:00:23 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: Gator113
NIMBY
86 posted on 07/18/2018 6:01:18 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: Hot Tabasco

Would you paint that graphic on your house or on your aunt’s house?


87 posted on 07/18/2018 6:12:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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To: MrEdd

Plus it’s running dog hegemony.


88 posted on 07/18/2018 6:15:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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To: Hugh the Scot; MrEdd

Property rights are no more absolute than the right to free speech.

You can’t shout ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.

You can’t swing your arms in a crowd.

You (generally) can’t do things that depreciates the enjoyment or use of someone else’s property without compensation.

Talk to nearly any farmer, crop or livestock, they know how these kinds of court cases turn out for them.

For a close to home example, try enjoying your property tonight with the music turned up loud.


89 posted on 07/18/2018 6:24:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

That is one of the most ignorant statements a human being can possibly make. Of course you can shout “fire” in a crowded theater, and your right to do so is absolute.

Two conditions apply:
1: The theater is on fire.
Or
2: You’re okay with the legal and financial ramifications of causing a panic with injuries.

But your right to do so is absolute.

FYI, I am at this moment blasting Five Finger Death Punch at maximum volume.

If your neighbor’s house is dragging down the pretend “value” of your property, think what it’s doing to his. You should be able to buy it cheap, and then do whatever you please with it.

You simply lack the self-awareness to think through your reaction to your neighbor telling you what to do with your own property based on some fool notion of his property’s value... That, or you just like to argue.


90 posted on 07/18/2018 6:43:39 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Silly man, of course you can shout that that under the conditions you cited.

That was your first ‘tell’ that somewhere inside you realized you lost this argument.

It is foolish to actually engage in things that reduce your neighbors use and enjoyment of his property, as there are volumes of case law that have been decided against the offending property owner.

Whether it is a spray that has drifted from one property to the next, noise pollution that people (generally) find offensive, or offensive odors, courts have found time and again in favor of the property owner on the receiving end of such nuisances.

Such could very well be the case here if the offended party could show actual damages.


91 posted on 07/18/2018 7:07:02 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Oh, I haven’t lost.

But I’m convinced that you would if you went to court claiming that the paint on your neighbor’s house reduced your use and enjoyment of your property.

You’ve as much as admitted that you won’t be able to show actual damages.


92 posted on 07/18/2018 7:16:14 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Hugh the Scot

I’ve not admitted to any such thing.

If actual damages are shown, based on my 40+ years of following these kinds of cases, the offending property owner is going to have to pony up.

Don’t forget to enjoy your property with loud music tonight.


93 posted on 07/18/2018 7:20:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

You have. Actual (actionable) damages aren’t provable in this case; because, as you know, ugly isn’t the same thing as spraying chemicals onto your property.

As I mentioned in a previous reply, I am enjoying my loud music tonight... You see, I live out in the boonies to avoid nosy busybodies like yourself. My in-town properties are rented out.


94 posted on 07/18/2018 7:28:55 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Hugh the Scot

When people come to my place, the first question asked about 90% of the time is how did you ever find this place.

I’m out in the boonies too, and I’m hardly a busybody, but as I said I followed these kinds of cases for more than 40 years. So I kind of know what I’m talking about.


95 posted on 07/18/2018 7:37:45 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Not doubting you, but I’ve been sued. I kind of know what I’m talking about as well.


96 posted on 07/18/2018 7:39:10 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: OddLane

I like it.


97 posted on 07/18/2018 8:25:07 PM PDT by jim35 (The Tree of Liberty is coming in to bloom again.)
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To: logi_cal869
If everything is all about “resale value”, then the “dream” was lost decades ago (arguably-so).

In fact, it's a non-neighborly mentality. "How much can we sell this house for?" has become the overriding principle for civic policy.

98 posted on 07/19/2018 3:50:34 PM PDT by Mmmike
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To: Balding_Eagle

How do you concretely determine the change in property value? Perhaps some people would value a certain change to a neighborhood more highly than others would?


99 posted on 07/19/2018 3:57:07 PM PDT by Mmmike
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To: blam
Wow. That's just selfish.
100 posted on 07/19/2018 3:57:51 PM PDT by donna (Rosenstein's press conference the moment Trump meets Queen-proof of overthrow plot.)
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