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California, Socialists, and the Debt Bombs; I’m pretty sure I know how California will fail.
Townhall ^ | 07/11/2018 | Patrick Bobko

Posted on 07/11/2018 8:19:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/11/2018 8:19:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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When venture capital funds leave the Bay Area, it is over.


2 posted on 07/11/2018 8:22:05 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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they are already leaving


3 posted on 07/11/2018 8:36:15 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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Like all socialist governments, they will end up with the rich elite and those with connections to the leaders who all live in special economic zones, and a mass of people trying to make toilet paper out of the kelp that washes ashore and food out of the garbage of the elite.


4 posted on 07/11/2018 8:37:57 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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gimme my free stuff!


5 posted on 07/11/2018 8:39:24 PM PDT by 1956tbyrd
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You can’t have much of a discussion about the
impending California meltdown without including
the liberal high tech gurus and the Hollywood
Kingpins who are so proud of their handiwork.


6 posted on 07/11/2018 8:43:04 PM PDT by Sivad (Demo M/O = infiltrate, overtake, politicize, weaponize)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unfortunately, the city where you live is going to fail first.

The richer cities will hang on for a while yet but cities like San Bernardino have already disbanded their police dept. and contracted out with the Riverside County Sheriff dept.

7 posted on 07/11/2018 8:43:26 PM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump!)
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This author may be right, but it’s a LONG way from now to failure.

CA is running a SURPLUS of over $10bil this year, even after all the extra spending. That’s on a budget of over $200bil. All debt payments are current and new borrowing is minimal.

State GDP is on fire. You have to hire trucks to haul all the money away.

That said, if they go after tech, ag and aerospace for more...this will go sideways FAST. Tech and aerospace can move.

They wouldn’t be dumb enough to kill agriculture, would they? This state is #1 in the nation in AG. By far.

Sadly, AG is usually the first casualty of communism.


8 posted on 07/11/2018 8:47:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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And when it does, it will be capitalism to blame.


9 posted on 07/11/2018 8:53:27 PM PDT by deadrock
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You actually haven’t driven the 5 and noticed the signs on the dried up fields that say ‘Congress Created Dust Bowl’? Or maybe they aren’t there anymore.....I haven’t driven that route in 9 years.


10 posted on 07/11/2018 8:54:34 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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By the left I meant.


11 posted on 07/11/2018 8:55:24 PM PDT by deadrock
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California will find some pretext to close its own borders so that people cannot leave the state.


12 posted on 07/11/2018 8:56:20 PM PDT by arthurus (shmk g hcccccccchzrterdff)
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I guess, but it’s been 15 years since I read articles about California being on the precipice of an imminent financial failure. Didn’t happen. Some of the same arguments were made back then.

Some things can’t be predicted timing-wise even though you are sure they will happen eventually. When will the Yellowstone caldera erupt?


13 posted on 07/11/2018 8:56:41 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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Got my wife and kids out of Cali twelve years ago. We’re now firmly rooted and flourishing in Texas.

It’s like a whole ‘nother country.


14 posted on 07/11/2018 9:04:43 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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Not there.

Drought is over. All fields in production. Many of the dead almond trees have been replaced with olives...the right crop in comparison. In the Sacramento valley it’s green for 200 miles north of SAC, and 75 miles wide. Same with the San Joaquin to Bakersfield. That’s another 300 miles and 75 miles wide.

There’s nothing else like it anywhere in the world.

This Big Valley is still the most productive farmland in the world, by HUGE margins.


15 posted on 07/11/2018 9:09:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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It is not at all a long way to the city pension collapse.

Fort Worth in Texas isn’t looking too good either.


16 posted on 07/11/2018 9:10:17 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptorp)
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All municipalities in CA subscribe to the state pension system...CalPers.

That system is in trouble, but it’s not severe due to the flood of money here. One day...maybe.

But as with all pension systems, one day the working and living just refuse to pay. They say NO MORE.


17 posted on 07/11/2018 9:13:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

In my city we have 7.25% sales tax. The city just voted in a 1% increase. I’ll be this becomes common.


18 posted on 07/11/2018 9:14:05 PM PDT by umgud
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Fire, water&power, cops etc., retiring at with 70k, 80k 125k 185k, 200k+ for life?

WTF could possibly go wrong?

CA tax payers have been looted and economically gang raped by these cities, counties and the state.

19 posted on 07/11/2018 9:14:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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California’s debt is nearly $428 billion at the time of this comment. California’s spending is more than $576 billion.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html


20 posted on 07/11/2018 9:38:41 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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