Posted on 07/07/2018 7:53:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
They never made any moves to spread the wealth.
They took from the rich, the middle class and the poor and gave to themselves.
Sweden, Norway, and Denmark have actually achieved a very modified version of socialism that works, with the consent of their people. All three nations understand that capitalism is what sustains their society and oddly are very pro capitalism. All three have a social welfare state. This state is paid by very high taxes on the public not the corporations. The corporate tax today in these three nations is much the same as in the USA. They realize if they tax their corporations to the point of not being competitive, their economies would collapse.
However, they have a Muslim problem that may collapse them.
He also gets a lot of guests on his show that won't go on other shows. He's too polite for them to refuse.
“At this point, West deflected by blaming outside forces for Venezuela’s failure. “Any time there’s been the attempts of ordinary people to engage in self-determination, they can get crushed by external nations, look at U.S. policies toward Venezuela has been very, very ugly,” West said.”
This is what drives me nuts - for over 50 years, we were told that Cuba turned into a sh!thole because the US would have nothing to do with it: no trade, no diplomatic relations, no social interactions, no nothing. And now we’re told the reason Venezuela has turned into a sh!thole is US interference.
If we have anything at all to do with a socialist/communist country, it’s our fault when it fails; if we have absolutely nothing to do with a socialist/communist country, it’s our fault when it fails. Go figure.
What did Venezuelans use for light before candles?
Electricity
At this point in time, you have to be a mental defect to believe socialism will work. And most of these people are not mentally defective. What they are, is what every progressive is. Disingenous. They all know this fails. They all want to be that autocrat.
They don’t need TP. When you have nothing to put in, nothing comes out.
Whenever supporters of socialism are confronted by the fact that it's never worked, and usually resulted in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century alone, their response is always that "the right person hasn't been in charge to implement it properly." Invariably, the person speaking is speaking of himself. The hubris of leftists is truly breathtaking. They can't come to terms with the fact that their ideas and theories are at fault, the reason being that they're a good person, and only want the best for others, so the policies must be good as well. And THEY can finally make it all work.
There are societies where communism is practiced with fantastic success. The only issue is that not a single one involves humans. Ants, bees, and termites have what could be the ultimate communist societies, where the collective is supreme, and all work together towards the success of the collective, are provided with what they need to survive, and therefore all succeed. The only problem is a little thing called free will. And humanity. The insects are hard-wired to be completely selfless and work towards the success of the colony, where human beings care about things. And others.
In an insect society, when an individual can no longer serve the collective, they are exiled to die. An example being what happens to all the drones (males) in a bee hive, which are forced out of the hive once the queen has been inseminated. Once an individual cannot serve the collective, they become dead weight, and a liability to the collective. In human terms, the NHS has determined that kidney dialysis is too expensive to the system once a person has reached a certain age, and for the good of the collective, they are cut off.
Finally, when government controls all businesses and industry, you wind up with people running things who really don't know anything about the industries they're running. Perfect examples could be seen in the old Soviet Union (as well as Venezuela and Zimbabwe.)
Mark
Yeah, look at him. He’s so ugly, he could scare a buzzard off a shit wagon.
You're right - that would have been stronger...much stronger. Tucker should have you on his team...
They are not socialist states. They all have a very healthy
capitalist private sector to support their welfare states.
Sweden for example has a 20% corp tax rate. It is the individual who pays draconian tax rates to support the welfare state.
Control freaks/Communists/Socialists ALWAYS STEAL the benefits of Constitutional Republics/Libertarian/Capitalist society and try to resale Socialism in that manor.
They basically con the public into thinking that a few people can take care of all the necessities in life and the complexities in our world. After all these con men know the answer to everything and can solve every problem in the world better than the individual. By the way, most people that say this have never had a career in the private sector or ran their own successful private enterprise. Yet they really believe they know the answer to all the world’s problems and issues even though they have a little to no track record. Anyway they sell it as the only thing the public has to worry about is your entertainment expenses. That’s how they con the public.
Their main point is that people cannot be trusted to run their lives and only the government should have these very important powers that are going to do it for the “needs of the many” which is an every changing thing. In other words people should be dependent vs. independent in the pursuit of their own happiness.
The reality is that government that these con men said should have all the power are made up of the very people Socialism says the people should not trust. They claim there is accountability via elections every few years. That’s making the assumption elections are not rigged too and after having to put up with all the nonsense while you wait for the next elections.
The reality in our Constitution Republic that protects the minority from the majority via our Bill of Rights. For the most part we already have all the benefits they are selling. Nevertheless, they try to say their system is better even though we see failure after failure around the world of it.
Most of these clowns that try to sell this horse $hit are looking at very tiny issues in our society and claim it’s the worst thing ever. When nothing could be further from the truth.
Case in point, racism in society. They act like it’s really bad. In reality most crimes are black on black and not white on black (97% of crimes in the black community). The 3% that is racial is 10 to 1 black on white crime vs. white on black crime. This is according to the 2015 FBI crime report.
Although when you take a look at crime as an overall issue. It’s actually lower since the late 1990s. The highest crime we had in the country was in the late 1970s early 1980s, but most people did not know about it. Most crimes are committed by young adults and teens. Although we have had a huge drop since the invention of the Internet, game machines and Smart Phones.
they have leaves. That’s socialism for you
Pizz ant. I like Tucker but the weirdo’s on his show make me watch other things. There’s absolutely no dialog with these Socialists.
We need a more nuanced argument than ‘socialism bad’. <<<
EXACTLY!..Which country do you think will collapse first?
BONUS QUESTION:....Why ??
I disagree with a lot of the answers here, though they are “correct” if you look at them as referring to just Venezuela.
Let’s address the question of “If Democratic Socialism works, why doesn’t Venezuela have toilet paper”?
Look “within” for the answer, which is, there is no toilet paper in Venezuela because the Leftist/Progressive/Socialists aholes of American have used it all up, because they are full of crap.
End of answer. Flush, refill, and flush again!
And as Cheryl Crow admonished, “use only one piece of paper at a time”.
With that comment, I’d put slap her picture on the cover of the Stones’ album “Sticky Fingers”.
Exactly. Progressives, are power hungry control freaks who believe that they will be the policy maker living in a dacha, not a corpse in a mass grave.
Cornhole West is an idiot. The only good thing that Larry Summers did was to kick his ass out of Hahvahd.
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