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Celebrities risk backlash with vulgar anti-Trump rhetoric
The Hill ^ | 7/6/18

Posted on 07/07/2018 9:07:20 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

Hollywood celebrities have been raising the heat in their rhetoric against President Trump, but critics say the often-profane criticism could actually inflame a pro-Trump backlash ahead of November’s midterm elections. Trump is considered vulgar Enemy No. 1 in much of the entertainment world, and more and more performers — from Robert De Niro to Michelle Wolf — are following him into the mud, though their harshest insults may actually be giving Republicans a boost.

“I think that they live inside this cultural bubble where they all talk among themselves and make the incredibly erroneous conclusion that the rest of the nation must think like they do,” GOP consultant John Brabender said in an interview with The Hill this week.

Celebrities were all-but unanimous in their anti-Trump stance during the 2016 election, after all, but the former “Apprentice” host captured the White House regardless.

“Some of the videos that De Niro has put up are scarier than some of his fictional roles,” Brabender said. De Niro, who once said in a YouTube video he wanted to “punch [Trump] in the face,” made headlines last month when he took the stage at the Tony Awards and declared, “F--- Trump.”

“It’s no longer ‘down with Trump,’ it’s ‘f--- Trump,’ ” the Academy Award winner exclaimed, to a standing ovation.

While Brabender, a veteran GOP strategist, says he has “absolutely no problem” with celebrities speaking out and says “they should” use their voices, he maintains that expletive-ridden diatribes can actually help unite the right.

“All it does is it bonds the rest of America, saying, ‘Well these people are idiots,’ " he said. In May, TBS’s “Full Frontal” host Samantha Bee was heavily criticized by both sides of the aisle after making a derogatory remark about Ivanka Trump during her show’s opening monologue.

Commenting on the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” immigration policy that led to the separation of children from their families at the Mexico-U.S. border, Bee called the president’s daughter and White House senior adviser a “feckless c---.” Chelsea Clinton tweeted that Bee’s words were “grossly inappropriate,” saying it’s “flat-out wrong to describe or talk about @IvankaTrump or any woman that way.” While several comedians came to the late-night personality’s defense, Bee and TBS later apologized, saying she “deeply regret[ted]” crossing the line with the “inappropriate and inexcusable” remark. "I’m currently of the mindset that we waste far too much energy thinking about what might turn off so-called moderates,” said Christy Setzer, who's worked for numerous Democratic campaigns, when asked about any effect the harsh words out of Hollywood might have on voters. “If someone is more upset by Samantha Bee’s language than Donald Trump putting children in cages, that’s a vote we were never going to get anyway.” Fellow Democratic strategist Basil Smikle says there can be a benefit to entertainers, who shouldn’t be held to the same standard as public officials, raising their voices about politics.

"Celebrity endorsements or surrogates can be helpful in fundraising, or raising awareness about candidates and issues, but they aren’t constrained by the same accountability nor are they expected to uphold the public’s trust as a voter would demand of an elected official,” he said.

But Smikle, who used to work for former presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, warns that Democrats “don’t want to be taken off message” or “have to defend or distance themselves from comments” made by star supporters.

Another Democratic strategist, David Wade, calls the uproar over the language used by America’s famous faces a “mindless Washington distraction,” but says entertainers are simply reacting to the same factors that are leading to blue victories in deep-red territory under Trump.

“Before we get a collective case of the vapors and faint over the latest comment by any celebrity, let’s get real,” Wade said. “The palpable outrage of many in Hollywood isn’t that much different from the sense of outrage in places like Alabama and western Pennsylvania that boosted over-performing Democratic turnout into the stratosphere to elect [Sen. Doug Jones] and [Rep. Conor Lamb].”

Some critics have questioned the motivation of stars to inject their voices in feverish political debates, raising the possibility that throwing out profane put-downs could be a way of getting attention. “That’s the other question that I sometimes sit and wonder,” said Brabender. “To what end are they doing that other than to make sure they’re in the news cycle?” Prominent Los Angeles-based public relations executive Danny Deraney rejects that notion: “I’m a publicist. I never had that conversation in my life: ‘How can I get myself in the paper if I call someone a ‘feckless whatever?’ ”

Pointing to Bee’s Trump dig, Deraney said, “She has her own show. She doesn’t need more attention.” Wolf has proven to be one of the Trump administration’s fiercest critics. The host of Netflix’s “The Break” burst into the public eye when she headlined April’s White House Correspondents’ Association dinner. Wolf, a “Daily Show” alum, blasted Ivanka Trump and Sarah Huckabee Sanders as part of her scathing set, comparing the White House press secretary to a character from "The Handmaid's Tale." Amid widespread condemnation, Wolf stood by her correspondents’ dinner remarks.

She has since compared Trump’s eldest daughter to herpes on her Netflix show.

“She’s fair game. And she is useless,” Wolf said of Ivanka Trump in an interview last month with The Daily Beast. “So I think it’s very fair to point out that she’s doing a terrible job.”

Other Hollywood defenders say celebs are simply matching Trump's crude language and history of lobbing personal insults at his opponents. Trump called "Meet the Press" moderator Chuck Todd a "son of a bitch" at a March rally, and last year accused “low I.Q. crazy” MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski of “bleeding badly from a face-lift” in public.

In the past he's hurled slurs of "moron" and "dummy" at plenty of targets.

But Brabender says politically outspoken performers are actually helping to line the GOP’s pockets. “The one thing they’re doing, I can tell you for sure, is helping Republicans raise money,” he said. “Every time one of these celebrities does something like this, there’s about 200, 300 organizations quickly sending out emails raising money off of it,” said Brabender.

Deraney says he doesn’t necessarily see the fiery denunciations of Trump as helping — or harming — either political party.

“I don’t think it’s hurting anyone, to be quite honest. I don’t think it’s hurting Democrats, I also don’t think it’s hurting the president,” said Deraney. “I think what this is, is frustration.”

Yet if he was a Democratic adviser, Brabender says, he would encourage celebrities to keep their cool going into the November midterms by putting the kibosh on profanity-laced, anti-Trump digs: “If they really want to positively impact the election, and maybe I would argue more importantly positively impact the country, I would come up with Plan B.”


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To: Altura Ct.
“She’s fair game. And she is useless,” Wolf said of Ivanka Trump in an interview last month with The Daily Beast. “So I think it’s very fair to point out that she’s doing a terrible job.”

I tend to agree with that. Ivanka is a cute bimbo, but not much class or useful knowledge of historic and geopolitics here.

We elect presidents, NEVER co-presidents, and she should keep her mouth shut and limit her input to the ballot box, like the rest of us real citizens.

21 posted on 07/07/2018 10:37:55 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: Altura Ct.

Entertainers used to be considered the scum of the earth. They were watched like hawks when around polite company. This can still be seen when the carnivals come to town each summer. No one really trusts carneys in their towns.

This changed for the most part with the creation of the film industry over 100 years ago. All of a sudden they became those one should emulate.
Because the silver screen is ‘magic’ folks felt they could lower their guard.

We need to correct this mistake.


22 posted on 07/07/2018 10:41:28 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Hollywood is rushing into the gutter.

Rushing into the gutter is like being dead.
Comparative and superlative forms of the condition simply don't exist.

23 posted on 07/07/2018 10:43:05 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: Jack Hammer

Hollywood has been in the gutter since the 1920s.


24 posted on 07/07/2018 10:48:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: napscoordinator
Maryl Streep out of the three will survive due to actually being a great actress. Sad she’s not a great person.

You do realize that, that is just an opinion, right?

I have never seen any of her movies, nor do I consequently feel deprived in any way. For me she's about as interesting to think about further as anthropophagy.

25 posted on 07/07/2018 10:49:10 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: Altura Ct.
Dream on that the hate/rage against Trump (and his supporters) isn't being noted and filed away by normal Americans.

I've observed several dyed in the wool rural Democrats discussing how they no longer belong in this new Democrat party.

26 posted on 07/07/2018 10:51:28 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: Altura Ct.

Trump has single handedly destroyed the Democrat’s ability to use celebrity endorsements to their advantage ever again. By fighting back against these people, he’s exposed just how nasty they really are.

Everybody already knows that these people live in gated communities in Liberal enclaves, and never engage with Conservatives. But at least a wimp like George W. Bush, who never stuck up for himself, made it easier for celebrities to attack him, while still appearing to be somewhat civil.

When Trump fights back, their reactions seem to scream “get off my property....Jeeves, get them out, lock the gate, raise the barbed wire, get me my tranquilizers and my sleeping mask”. And yes, ordinary Americans are noting this.


27 posted on 07/07/2018 10:56:53 AM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: Vaquero
Entertainers used to be considered the scum of the earth. They were watched like hawks when around polite company. This can still be seen when the carnivals come to town each summer. No one really trusts carneys in their towns.

You missed perhaps the most salient point: during Elizabethan/Sshakesperian period actors and theater were quite popular, but regardless of the show, actors providing the entertainment were NEVER allowed to spend the night within the limits of the town or city.

The reasons why are as true and disgusting today as they were then.

Q.E.D.

28 posted on 07/07/2018 11:00:55 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: publius911

Then there is that too.


29 posted on 07/07/2018 11:04:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Altura Ct.

The cult of celebrity is just about finished. These self-worshipping morons have repeatedly proven themselves unworthy of our admiration, or even our respect. They’re nothing but chattering heads.


30 posted on 07/07/2018 11:57:42 AM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: The Fop

Speaking of W, did you notice how W took all kinds of hell from the dems for 8 years and just let them walk all over him and he never said a word? Trump makes a couple of comments at his rally about H. W. thousand points of light theme and out come the Bushes to defend. Their support of the criminal Clintons is disgusting. Where was Laura when Obama was caging the children.


31 posted on 07/07/2018 12:11:28 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: Altura Ct.

It’s not just anti-Trump. It’s also their constant crusade against hard-working, tax-paying Americans that disagree with them.


32 posted on 07/07/2018 12:18:14 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: publius911

Well that’s the price of being on a chat board. Get used to it. If you are new, this might not be your thing.


33 posted on 07/07/2018 12:35:58 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Altura Ct.

bookmark


34 posted on 07/07/2018 12:37:14 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Altura Ct.

“De Niro, who once said in a YouTube video he wanted to “punch [Trump] in the face”
He’d have to stand on a milk crate to do it!


35 posted on 07/07/2018 12:45:06 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Altura Ct.

Twitter inserts liberal socialists vulgar comments in celeb accounts. The celebs either do not mind or are afraid to protest.


36 posted on 07/07/2018 2:26:50 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Altura Ct.

I watched Charlton Heston on the Dick Cavett show from 1971.
He remarked that celebs should realize they are in the public and not complain. He also said that being a celebrity is good if you want a table at a restaurant and that is about it.
He mentioned that the ones the public knows about are only about 50 to 100 while the rest of the 26,000 in the screen actors guild make $3,000 or less a year.


37 posted on 07/07/2018 2:32:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Altura Ct.

I try to be a non-consumer of hollyweird’s products.


38 posted on 07/07/2018 7:29:30 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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