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Gotta say, and I understand we have a lot of pro-life Freepers, I agree with this young lady. Government has a role to play but regulating social issues is where it fails miserably. That includes allowing Gays and Trans to serve in the Armed Forces.

On the pro-life/pro-choice issue; our elected congress should decide if that's a federal issue or a states issue then vote accordingly. Another option is a compromise that keeps showing up; the 20 week rule.

This is not the time to over step. Play it smart and we will keep winning for another 6+ years.

1 posted on 07/07/2018 6:47:42 AM PDT by Boomer
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Come to think of it, Kavanaugh did also decide against forcing employers and organizations through Obamacare to pay for abortion drugs for employees. He also argued in favor of pro-life speech.

But he hasn’t said anything in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade. As for government funding for abortions and efforts to violate the First Amendment by gagging pro-life groups, there’s nothing conservative about those efforts.


40 posted on 07/07/2018 7:49:37 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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That includes allowing Gays and Trans to serve in the Armed Forces.

A (Baby) Boomer posting how appeals to emotion should overrule logic (In this case, financial/cohesion considerations) and time tested measures that work. The ban on homosexuals worked because everyone assumed there were no homosexuals (Even though they were) in the work place. Now you want to play open romper room with these with debased behaviors that offers no positivity to behavioral management that is already fragile in the military environment.

Also, Lahren is too scared she might not have the legal access to conveniently murder her offspring while whoring around. Sorry, rights end (The mother) where another begins (offspring). That is not a social issue, that is a fundamental fact. Roe V. Wade was based on lies and terrible legal reasoning. That decision deserves to be nuked and if this pisses off the "surrender"-to-win crowd, so be it. Those who dare wins; you want us to play timid scared milquetoast? Sorry, not buying what you are selling, because compromising with evil just results in evil. The Independence Committee had to fight off the "comfortable" class like yourself as well in 1776.
42 posted on 07/07/2018 7:50:14 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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It all depends on court cases and Roberts won’t take on a Roe one.


43 posted on 07/07/2018 7:53:46 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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Gotta say, and I understand we have a lot of pro-life Freepers, I agree with this young lady. Government has a role to play but regulating social issues is where it fails miserably. That includes allowing Gays and Trans to serve in the Armed Forces.

You couldn't be more wrong.

The very basis of our country, and our constitution is wrapped up in theses words from our Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
Your position is a position of cowardice and a lack of principle.
45 posted on 07/07/2018 7:59:34 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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End government funding and Murder Inc. will die on it’s own.


46 posted on 07/07/2018 8:01:12 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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Like homicide and infantacide, the US Constitution is silent on abortion.

Before Roe v. Wage, it was a state law issue. It destroys our Constitution to have judges create new constitutional rights (such as a right to destroy children before they are born).

Ms. Lahern is a libertarian, not a conservative.

Judge Barrett or whoever President Trump appoints will hopefully restore the Constitutional order.


52 posted on 07/07/2018 8:27:38 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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Ronald Reagan on Protecting the Sanctity of Life
January 1, 1983

“Abortion concerns not just the unborn child, it concerns every one of us. [...] Every legislator, every doctor, and every citizen needs to recognize that the real issue is whether to affirm and protect the sanctity of all human life, or to embrace a social ethic where some human lives are valued and others are not. As a nation, we must choose between the sanctity of life ethic and the “quality of life” ethic. [...] I have often said we need to join in prayer to bring protection to the unborn. Prayer and action are needed to uphold the sanctity of human life. I believe it will not be possible to accomplish our work, the work of saving lives, “without being a soul of prayer.”


A FREE nation that does not uphold the sanctity of LIFE, deserves neither.


55 posted on 07/07/2018 8:32:50 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~ There needs to be a quieting of the screaming lambs.)
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If Roe's overturned it would mean each State would make the call on abortion being legal or not within that State.

Liberal women, Hollywood sluts, and men like Peter Fonda, DiNiro and Weinstein could still pay to have their babies killed - - even if Roe was overturned.

The 'choice' goes back to the States... I'm surprised California didn't adopt the liberal proposal that women should be able to kill their children up until their two years old. Some liberal academic proposed that a few years ago...

58 posted on 07/07/2018 8:37:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IsingvI_I STOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4)
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On the pro-life/pro-choice issue; our elected congress should decide if that’s a federal issue or a states issue then vote accordingly. Another option is a compromise that keeps showing up; the 20 week rule.

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But Roe vs. Wade does not allow the issue to be decided by the legislatures (federal or state). The court ruled it’s a Constitutional right based on an implied right to privacy. So you’re saying let the judiciary continue to usurp this issue from the people?


59 posted on 07/07/2018 8:38:46 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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Killing children is not a constitutional right. There is a right to life though.


60 posted on 07/07/2018 8:42:52 AM PDT by CodeToad
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And I understand the passion behind the pro-life movement.

No, Tomi, you don't. You think abortion is "choice".

We know it's murder.

60 million murdered babies cry out against you, Tomi.

68 posted on 07/07/2018 8:57:19 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Poor Tomi just doesn’t get it. Roe V Wade was decided for the wrong reasons on a fiction not in the Constitution.The right decision would have been for the court to have declined to hear the case. That would have put the issue back at the state level where it belonged and allowed them to decide how to proceed. Yes that would have meant 50 potentially different ways to deal with it but that is the way the system was set up.


70 posted on 07/07/2018 9:00:22 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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TALKING about it is the big mistake! This PRO abort faux-conservative should just STFU.


75 posted on 07/07/2018 9:08:13 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To me, the most important thing about Roe v. Wade, much more important (to me) than the abortion issue, is the naked claim that the USSC has the authority to construe "rights" not enumerated and powers not delegated, just because they can.

Now, I have already concluded that the experiment of self-government in a setting like ours has failed and needs to be wound up, but if you haven't - if you still believe meaningful self-government can be restored - then you MUST support overturning the Roe v. Wade decision, NOT because of the baby killing that follows from it but because of the dictatorship of relativism that is its sole foundation.

79 posted on 07/07/2018 9:15:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (p)
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I think there are areas of the country where abortion receives such disapproval the there are no abortionists available in the area. Law has to have social as well as a legal sanction in order to be effective, i.e. Prohibition.


90 posted on 07/07/2018 10:19:05 AM PDT by brianr10
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So, you feel an activist court can violate the constitution and create a “right” and simply because that court did so 50 years ago the constitution should continue to be ignored??

I am not actively gunning for roe v Wade to be challenged... but there is no way a constructionist court can uphold it if a case comes before it.

The court completely overstepped its bounds in Roe V Wade, legislation is the department of the legislature not the court.


91 posted on 07/07/2018 10:35:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Government has NO right to charge me for your abortion, OR to charge me to fund a religious charity that collects per head in human trafficking. Or to charge me for your sex change.


99 posted on 07/07/2018 11:23:57 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Another opinion looking for a problem. First, there are no abortion cases wending their way to the Court at this time.

Second, the Court has long known that the Roe V. Wade was cut from whole cloth outside the constitution.

Finally, if and when a case comes before the Court, it will have weight only if the question becomes: “May a woman deny life to another individual and at what point is that life protected under the constitution?” Democrats like science so much until it causes responsibility for their actions.


112 posted on 07/07/2018 12:08:23 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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I'm a Tomi fan...but...

First, legal life has its own timing; No one 'decides' to overturn a precedent. A case makes it's way through the system which is ripe for examination or not.

Overturning Roe will be a process, not an event. It could take ten, twenty years and several decisions to lay the groundwork..

Let’s go after sanctuary cities, and push for voter ID laws. We lose when we start messing with social issues.

RATs think immigration and sanctuary cities are social issues. Conservatives think abortion is murder. Tomi, however, believes...This isn’t a black and white issue and I would never judge anyone in that position.

No, I don't think she "understands the passion."

122 posted on 07/09/2018 11:20:28 AM PDT by gogeo (No justice, no peace.)
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Allowing babies to be murdered by their mothers between conception and birth is losing not winning.


126 posted on 07/14/2018 6:53:00 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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