[Secret Agent Man]

I say if people want kids, good, have them but raise them well.

If people don’t want kids, don’t have them, spare the kids and the rest of us from doing a half-assed job.

Either way, either choice, is a selfish one, one isnt better than another from a moral point of view. When people say ‘dont you want kids to take care of you when you are older’ as justification for having kids, they cant see the selfishness of that reason.

[Concentrate]

Sounds like a justification of murder. If you you don’t want kids, don’t have sexual intercourse.

(Sperm + vagina = child) Duh!

[Mrs. Don-o]

"When people say ‘dont you want kids to take care of you when you are older’ as justification for having kids, they cant see the selfishness of that reason."

I disagree. Family interdependence is not selfish. It is mutual, natural and universal.

[A_perfect_lady]

When people say ‘dont you want kids to take care of you when you are older’ as justification for having kids, they cant see the selfishness of that reason.

I agree. Not to mention, most of the folks in the old folks homes DO have kids. They visit once a month.