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To: DAC21
You think it is a "redistribution scam" because you are poorly informed

Many, many places renewable is cheaper than fossils, so the stockholders are benefitting.

The ratepayers in Texas, Ok, KS, IA and numerous other places know that they are saving money on renewable.

And its not slowing down, they have recently announced the biggest windfarms ever in Texas and OK

The shift has already begun. Trump can't stop it and fatboy ford can't stop it

24 posted on 07/04/2018 6:15:30 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

The physics of the energy density of liquid fuels makes a mockery of your statement. And you. Give it up, green boy. Nobody’s buying what you’re selling.


30 posted on 07/04/2018 6:29:43 AM PDT by Noumenon (When all liberals have is a hammer, every problem is a nail in YOUR coffin.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

The ratepayers in Texas might be paying a little less but that is because of massive tax credits to the wind farm builders/owners. With the tax credit scheme due to expire at year end the future of the ‘give me money to be green’ scheme might well be in doubt.


31 posted on 07/04/2018 6:30:27 AM PDT by Hartlyboy
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To: Ben Ficklin

The views in my old home state have been ruined by those damn things. Sacrificing eagles, hawks and bats on the altar of environmentalism.


33 posted on 07/04/2018 6:33:22 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Renewables are subsidized by government. No subsidy then there would be less of it. That is why wind farms will often run when prices are negative in wholesale market - to get the subsidy.


35 posted on 07/04/2018 6:39:55 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Ben Ficklin

You think it is a “redistribution scam” because you are poorly informed
Many, many places renewable is cheaper than fossils, so the stockholders are benefitting.

The ratepayers in Texas, Ok, KS, IA and numerous other places know that they are saving money on renewable.

And its not slowing down, they have recently announced the biggest windfarms ever in Texas and OK

The shift has already begun. Trump can’t stop it and fatboy ford can’t stop it

Speaking of being poorly informed, I would put you in the center of that discription. If there were no subsidies or other forced by government cooperation, there would be no renewable energy scams.


36 posted on 07/04/2018 6:40:00 AM PDT by bubalooie
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To: Ben Ficklin

Suggest taking a closer look.
Without government subsidies, wind and solar are not competitive.


39 posted on 07/04/2018 6:44:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Ben Ficklin; DAC21

I DO like being fully informed...

https://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/wind-subsidies-end/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2016/06/wind-energy-subsidies-billions/amp/


40 posted on 07/04/2018 6:45:07 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterto)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Did you forget the /s tag? Or are you just an Algorilla troll? Cheap renewable energy is like cheap Obama care. It’s “cheap to you”. Someone is paying the differences in rates, investment, and misuse of the energy grid. Rate payers and taxpayers heavily subsidize renewables. They wouldn’t exist on their own.


52 posted on 07/04/2018 7:14:12 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Ben Ficklin

Show me the numbers.. The real numbers, not the ones the “environmentalist” make up. The wholesale price of electricity in TX does go WAY down when the wind blows because there isn’t enough demand at 2 AM.

The Greenies never tell you about the Nat Gas turbines they had to build to back up the wind farms when the wind stops blowing.


56 posted on 07/04/2018 7:42:07 AM PDT by between_the_lines_mn
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ha ha ha ha. Never heard so much bull hockey before.


73 posted on 07/04/2018 4:08:56 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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