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To: Mark17

And buddy, if there’s any way to win people who have been caught up in the modern furor which calls itself liberal, but is actually as illiberal as a toddler in a tantrum — it’s to be meekly ready to talk reason once their heads, banged against the wall, are all bloody and blurred. Don’t focus your enemies by reacting how Satan gets them to imagine you will — with brute violence.


27 posted on 06/28/2018 1:08:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Unless you mean that metaphorically, it sounds fairly violent to me to bang somebody’s head against a wall until they come around to your point of view.

My take on Civil War 2.0, it has been happening at a political level since around 1992 and it intensified in several stages, most notable of them being the Obama ascendancy. This completed a revolution but did not quite bring on a one-party state although the Romney surrender was as close to de facto one party state politics as America would ever get, short of a formal declaration backed by police and military power.

The Trump election brings us to a counter-revolutionary push back phase that is nowhere near being consolidated. The revolutionaries are still in control of large segments of society. And they are very close to a return to political power at all levels.

A more literal civil war 2.0 with large scale violence will be difficult to organize on either side in part due to the scattered nature of combatants and in part due to the fog of ambiguity surrounding which side many people would choose if forced. Who exactly is going to engage with whom, and would it be pitched battles of groups, or roaming groups of small numbers looking for targets of opportunity?

At what level of engagement does civil unrest turn into civil war?

The dynamics of possible civil war in this instance appear to be small towns, suburbs and rural areas vs larger urban areas. As we all know, small numbers of sympathizers with each side are surrounded in each case by large numbers of the potential combatants. A small town liberal or a big city Trump supporter might be in danger of early extinction in any such large scale civil unrest, but I can’t really picture a battleground scenario because rural conservatives don’t want to live in big cities and vice versa.

Maybe it all goes away with a more decisive Trump win in 2020 followed by another strong conservative nationalist serving 2025 to 2032. That may erode the base of support for the far left back to 1980s levels where it’s just a small number having limited influence. That may be wishful thinking given the demographic forces at work.

I also think that the second coming may pre-empt this civil war or be the focal event bringing it on, or an event that ends it. This would transform the saved portiun of the U.S. into the nation that becomes the central point of the Kingdom. Events around the world would reflect this process and similar outcomes would occur.


28 posted on 06/28/2018 1:50:15 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Respect the law, enforce the law, improve the law -- and encourage leftists to meditate 24/7/365)
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