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To: stockpirate

FDR was one of our greatest Presidents - ended the Depression, won the Second World War and made America a superpower.

Pretty incredible if you think about it. None of today’s politicians are in his class of command his stature.


7 posted on 06/25/2018 3:31:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
ended the Depression

We differ on this point.

8 posted on 06/25/2018 3:39:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: goldstategop

“FDR......Pretty incredible if you think about it”...……..

FDR didn’t have all the “crazies” on the left resisting him nor the EXTREMELY BIASED media helping them. No, FDR couldn’t hold a candle to Trump as he continues winning over those who resist his efforts on every front. FDR got his “greatness” by the people of this country pulling together to win WWII. I pray Trump survives to complete TWO terms, it will almost completely destroy the left but unfortunately they will more than likely survive, living on to go after the next and the next.


11 posted on 06/25/2018 3:53:13 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: goldstategop

All the soviet agents in his administration would agree.Why was Truman added to the ticket?Whom did he replace?


13 posted on 06/25/2018 3:55:29 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: goldstategop; stockpirate

Reality101:

Thanks to his economic policies, FDR extended the depression an additional 6-8 years. It would have ended MUCH sooner had he done nothing. (UCLA Research Paper)

FDR, a leftwing communist (like W. Wilson) conspired with Stalin to give him Eastern Europe that plunged those nations into the darkness of Communism for 40 years.

Stockpirate was absolutely correct when he described FDR as a POS. In reality, he was even worse.


16 posted on 06/25/2018 4:05:47 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: goldstategop; newfreep

FDR outlawed ownership of goldb then stole people’s gold from them. He ordered tens od thousands of head of cattle, pigs, sheep killed and buried to prop up prices.

Two days before Pearl Harbor all aircraft carriers were ordered out to sea to protect them. He knew


20 posted on 06/25/2018 4:57:18 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: goldstategop

“FDR was one of our greatest Presidents”

Wrong.

“ended the Depression”

Nope. Made it worse and longer.

“won the Second World War”

Nope. That was Truman.

“and made America a superpower.”

Nope again. That was mostly Eisenhower.

L


22 posted on 06/25/2018 5:03:52 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: goldstategop

If you lay out all of FDR’s economic policies....they all ensured the continuation of zero growth and recovery....every single one of them.

After Pearl Harbor, the industry heads went and told FDR that his economic chiefs had to be pushed back, and virtually every industry had to be given free reins to build at the rate required to win the war. He agreed, without a whimper. Strictly on economic growth and industrial ‘might’, they built every aircraft, ship, tank and gun necessary...to win the war in a matter of four years.

At the conclusion of the war, FDR was dead, and Truman/Eisenhower wisely allowed the same growth ‘passion’ to exist, and continue the boom period all the way through the 1950s.

A great book to pick up and read through is the Forgotten Man by Amity Shales, which covers the 1930s and the Depression era. She puts all pieces into prospective and I highly recommend the book.


25 posted on 06/25/2018 5:14:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: goldstategop
FDR was one of our greatest Presidents - ended the Depression, won the Second World War and made America a superpower.

He didn't end the Depression, he extended it. The 2nd World War ended it.

26 posted on 06/25/2018 5:16:12 AM PDT by fedupjohn (The Alpha Male Chosen By The People to #MAGA....President Trump...)
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To: goldstategop

FDR was one of our greatest Presidents - ended the Depression, won the Second World War and made America a superpower

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Many believe FDR instigated the Japanese by embargoes of steel and crude on them. The resulting attack on us and our declaration of war on Japan is what came to be the end of the depression. Our becoming a super power was a result also of our military build up.


29 posted on 06/25/2018 5:39:32 AM PDT by billyboy15 (S re)
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To: goldstategop

“FDR was one of our greatest Presidents...ended the Depression, won the Second World War and made America a superpower.”

If one defines his “greatness” as his lasting impacts on American culture, its legal systems and government institutions - there is no doubt that he should rank only behind Washington and Lincoln. It is how one views his legacy - in a positive or negative light, and how one comes to that conclusion. Is it based on the real facts or images polished for public consumption/indoctination?

As far as ending the Depression, it wasn’t his economic policies but WW2 that ended it. Had FDR respected the Washingtonian tradition of limiting his humble self to 2 terms - someone else would have received the credit. The Depression was returning in 1938, the only way out was to increase government spending - so after 6 years of what should have been an 8 year Presidency, his economic policies were really a failure.

There is not enough time for me to address FDR winning WW2, that depends on the definition of “winning”. What came after - the Cold War, Korea, Vitenam, Iron Curtain ... all were off shoots of WW2. Yalta Conference is FDR’s trophy. FDR was in the ground - Truman dropped the A-bomb that ended “it”. But I concede the A-bomb development started under FDR for Truman to drop.

FDR cannot be studied enough to understand why America is where it is today. Thanks for your post.


30 posted on 06/25/2018 5:40:51 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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