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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
If California dissolves itself into three separate territories, does that mean California is gone and any or all of the three new entities have to be admitted individually?

We have the precedent of West Virginia breaking off from Virginia. The original Virginia remained Virginia and keeps the records, etc.
23 posted on 06/22/2018 10:00:04 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Beginning in Reconstruction, and for several decades thereafter, the two states disputed the new state’s share of the pre-war Virginia government’s debts, which had mostly been incurred to finance public infrastructure improvements, such as canals, roads, and railroads under the Virginia Board of Public Works. Virginians—led by former Confederate General William Mahone—formed a political coalition based upon this: the Readjuster Party. Although West Virginia’s first constitution provided for the assumption of a part of the Virginia debt, negotiations opened by Virginia in 1870 were fruitless, and in 1871, Virginia funded two-thirds of the debt and arbitrarily assigned the remainder to West Virginia. The issue was finally settled in 1915, when the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that West Virginia owed Virginia $12,393,929.50.[51] The final installment of this sum was paid in 1939.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia


And that will be when the discussion gets interesting. For further reference, what happened to all the debt of the USSR? There is an example of a more recent breakup.


24 posted on 06/22/2018 10:08:31 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
The funny thing about West Virginia is that it happened in 1863, in the middle of the War Between the States. Since Virginia had seceded and was de facto not part of the Union, but the Union did not recognize this fact (considering the Confederate states still part of the Union), the admission of West Virginia (made from territory of Virginia) required the consent of the legislature of Virginia, which was obviously impossible to achieve.

The Union got around it. The Union army occupied Alexandria, so they woke up the City Council in the middle of the night, declared them the Virginia legislature (probably not legal, for a number of reasons), and told them they could go home only after approving the bill to create West Virginia.

One could reasonably argue that West Virginia is illegal.

41 posted on 06/22/2018 11:15:18 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Sounds like California needs a civil war to make that work. And, by the way, Virginia had to apply for readmission to the Union after the war. I don’t see any reason to allow any little slave state Californias back into the Union. Maybe Mexico or China will take them.


50 posted on 06/22/2018 2:44:50 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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