Posted on 06/16/2018 6:09:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick
I am sorry you people are against third party reproduction. There are many conservative and even quite religious families for whom it has healed their broken hearts after infertility. While adoption is a wonderful thing, babies and older children who have been through trauma are sometimes difficult to raise. It is a joy for many families to have either their own genetic kids or the ability to carry a baby and give birth and control the prenatal environment.
Especially women are so deeply satisfied by being able with medical assistance to carry and give birth or just have their own newborn baby, no matter the genetics. It makes all the difference in their lives.
this is disgusting
Please see my posts after yours.
Egg donors are not morally bankrupt. One’s eggs are not one’s child. Men are certainly quite willing to dispense with their seed.
Thanks for posting this, T-c.
This is a brilliant article. The implications, understood by those for whom essential human dignity is indisputable, are devastatingly clear.
A woman and her ability to conceive, gestate, and deliver a child are commodities, as is the child.
To me a woman is naturally AND symbolically esoteric. There is the obvious “outer” and the mysteriously powerful, mysterious, and desirable “inner.” And a reason for public modesty is to preserve the power and privilege of intimate nudity and self-disclosure.
This sad age reduces everything good to amusement and everything unpleasant to vice. It is all jumbled.
Absolutely disgusting.
I am not, Yaelle, although I believe Mrs Don-O is. I think the technology has been abused but it has also assisted in miracles.
I celebrate those miracles (including my grandson) but I think we cannot leave children defenseless in the hands of those who want to use them for some fantasy or even to abuse. In the present climate of amorality it is difficult to draw any of the protective lines we once would have thought common sense. I hope that with the welfare of the children at heart we may make progress.
Yeah, reality t.v. stars using petri dishes and surrogate mothers were so common back then!
Regards,
How fashionable.
My prayers for the child.
What happens to her when the lifestyle of her “parents” punches their tickets before she reaches adolescence?
I do see the two separate issues. The benefits of reproductive endocrinology to help good people become loving parents. And the change in society that has permitted singles and gays to raise kids.
For the former, yes, there are problems, like left over embryos. I’ve stepped up and taken some of them and plenty of others can too. Most left over embryos are not capable of becoming children but they still deserve testing or a chance.
For the latter, with everyone having rights these days, who is to say who might or might not be suitable parents? There are a lot of heterosexual parents who are abusive. There are gay parents who are quite loving and decent. I am ok with freedom in raising kids. The world is no longer going to be traditional marriage Uber Alles, and I’m used to it now. I despise abuse of children and will always discuss and fight it. But some of the worst child molesters are “religious” and married to the opposite sex.
Damn Skippy. Their hypocrisy is thrown in our faces without a care in the world.
A very positive comment, and a good idea for all of us!
Yes, that's true. Then they say that a person's sex is not intrinsic. Then they say one's "gender" can vary throughout the day. Then they say one can't "identify" as a different race from the one "assigned at birth."
As Professor Kirke said, "Logic! Don't they teach them logic in these schools?"
Yes, and that's wrong, too.
“Compensated” and “paid” are the same thing.
Yes, those are the issues I see. My take on the first is similar to yours.
I am not in agreement on the gay parentage. I think the child’s rights are paramount. Despite all the love and caring a gay family could provide, children need a father & a mother as role models. Many children don’t get them but that is an accident of fate and admittedly makes it much harder for them to succeed in life. To deliberately create a child who will have such burdens growing up is callous no matter how well meaning.
This is a topic where people hold strong beliefs and courteous discussion is not the norm. Thank you for the opportunity.
As I see it, the key phrase in your post is “essential human dignity,” an intrinsic element to be honored in every human being, regardless of circumstances.
In various “identity” movements, it seems as though “dignity” is conceived as the ability to demand that others provide you with what you want. However, “essential human dignity” consists in the absolutely right to be treated as an end rather than a means - as Pope John Paul II said, and this author mentions.
Thanks. Yes.
I also was musing about “the meaning of the (human) body.”
I haven’t spent enough time with the “Theology of the Body,” but when gestation is a commodity and birth an opportunity for public display and snark, a kind of natural blasphemy and even desecration is evident. Some sights are privileged.
“Natural blasphemy and desecration” is another good phrase.
I believe modern philosophy teaches that the body has no “meaning.” It’s simply the material means by which the autonomous will enacts its desires and preferences.
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