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New book details the inside story of Obama's birth certificate and the birth of fake news
Yahoo News ^ | June 14, 2018 | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 06/15/2018 1:50:09 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

Dan Pfeiffer, former assistant and senior adviser to President Barack Obama, thinks he knows the exact date the modern era of fake news was born: April 27, 2011.

“I had walked into the briefing room that morning with 50 copies of Barack Obama’s birth certificate,” Pfeiffer recalls in a memoir, “Yes We (Still) Can: Politics in the Age of Obama, Twitter, and Trump,” set to be published next week. “So we could prove once and for all the man who was in his third year as president after winning an historic electoral landslide was an American citizen and eligible to be president.”

According to Pfeiffer, Obama first raised the idea to release his birth certificate to him while walking to the Oval Office.

“Maybe we should put the birth certificate out and be done with this,” Obama said.

“But you know we can’t do that, right?’” Pfeiffer responded.

Obama said he agreed, but “I could tell he didn’t really mean it,” Pfeiffer writes.

A few weeks later on a fundraising trip to Chicago, Obama spent the night at his home.

“Whenever he was home, often alone, he would root through all his stuff; on this particular trip, he was going through a box and found what he believed was his birth certificate,” Pfeiffer writes. “To this day, it isn’t clear whether he stumbled upon this document or went looking for it. I have always suspected the latter.”

“Excited about his find,” Obama brought it back to the White House and showed it to White House counsel Bob Bauer.

“Bauer took one look at what Obama had in his hand and knew it wasn’t his actual birth certificate,” Pfeiffer recalls. “Instead the president had found a ceremonial document sold in hospital gift shops.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; fake; hawaii; hoax; hussein; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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1 posted on 06/15/2018 1:50:09 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Crazy that Obama made secret so much of his history.


2 posted on 06/15/2018 1:51:55 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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Carl Gallups is reported to be having Mike Zullo on to discuss this new narrative sometime on his show today between 5 and 7 EST...

https://carlgallups.blogspot.com/


3 posted on 06/15/2018 1:54:07 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Well, ‘cept for one niggling detail on th BC. Pretty dang sure in 1961 his dad’s race would have said “Negro”. No way would it have had “African” on it. That’s what I recall seeing way back. But we’re way past that now.


4 posted on 06/15/2018 1:54:50 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama is one of the many offspring of CULT LEADER and founder of the SUBUD movement, Mohammed Subud of Indonesia. THAT is a fact.

Loretta Fuddy was allegedly also a member of the SUBUD CULT.

5 posted on 06/15/2018 1:55:48 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Seizethecarp
They must be getting worried that Trump is going to order the release of all Obama’s documents. I can't wait for that day...and it WILL happen before Trump leaves office.
6 posted on 06/15/2018 1:56:38 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Seizethecarp

The fake BC was the Fake News.


7 posted on 06/15/2018 1:56:49 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: MeganC

Uh, it’s Yahoo. CNN without even good writing.


8 posted on 06/15/2018 1:57:49 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Seizethecarp

This is simply bizarre.

Released on the day after the IG report.

Wow.


9 posted on 06/15/2018 1:58:36 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: bitt; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; circumbendibus; ...

New article about Obama rummaging in his attic to find commemorative BC is posted...

Surprisingly, he couldn’t identify which hospital he was born at for several years, which should have been shown on this commemorative piece paper.

And why hasn’t the image of this historic item been shown???


10 posted on 06/15/2018 1:58:42 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),

Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.

But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

If there is extensive law written that covers election fraud, but it is impossible to enforce, or if a sufficient number of people agree that So-and-So is the President or Pope despite the law, how does that not utterly, completely destroy the entire notion of the Rule of Law itself? As I have said for years with regards to Obama, if you can’t enforce Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the Constitution, what can you enforce? Can you enforce the border? Can you enforce citizenship? Equal protection? Search and seizure? Right to bear arms? Can you enforce the law against treason? Theft? Murder? Trafficking in body parts? Religious persecution?

Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

Not much information exists on why the Third Congress (under the lead of James Madison and the approval of George Washington) deleted "natural born" from the Naturalization Act of 1790 when it passed the Naturalization Act of 1795. There is virtually no information on the subject because they probably realized that the First Congress committed errors when it passed the Naturalization Act of 1790 and did not want to create a record of the errors.

It can be reasonably argued that Congress realized that under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, Congress is given the power to make uniform laws on naturalization and that this power did not include the power to decide who is included or excluded from being a presidential Article II "natural born Citizen." While Congress has passed throughout United States history many statutes declaring who shall be considered nationals and citizens of the United States at birth and thereby exempting such persons from having to be naturalized under naturalization laws, at no time except by way of the short-lived "natural born" phrase in Naturalization Act of 1790 did it ever declare these persons to be "natural born Citizens."

The uniform definition of "natural born Citizen" was already provided by the law of nations and was already settled. The Framers therefore saw no need nor did they give Congress the power to tinker with that definition. Believing that Congress was highly vulnerable to foreign influence and intrigue, the Framers, who wanted to keep such influence out of the presidency, did not trust Congress when it came to who would be President, and would not have given Congress the power to decide who shall be President by allowing it to define what an Article II "natural born Citizen " is.

Additionally, the 1790 act was a naturalization act. How could a naturalization act make anyone an Article II "natural born Citizen?" After all, a "natural born Citizen" was made by nature at the time of birth and could not be so made by any law of man.

Natural Born Citizen Through the Eyes of Early Congresses

Harvard Law Review Article FAILS to Establish Ted Cruz as Natural Born Citizen

Watch: Mark Levin declares Ted Cruz a "Naturalized Citizen"

Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

The settled law of the land is that the US President must be a natural born citizen, and that to be a natural born citizen, you must have been born in the United States to parents both of whom were US citizens when you were born.

You may disagree with the goal of the Constitutional Convention, and/or with the means they chose to achieve it. But it's not a technicality, not an anachronism no longer relevant in modern times, nor is it racist. Especially in modern times, it enables persons of any race or ethnic heritage to become President. And it's what the Constitution requires.

You may also disagree with binding precedent regarding the meaning of "natural born citizen" as established in Minor. But in our system, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court's interpretation of it, are the "supreme law of the land." And if one faction gets to disregard the Constitution and/or the Supreme Court because they disagree, then that sets a precedent where all other factions can do the same.

Any Argument Against the Natural Law Definition of "Natural Born Citizen" Can easily be Defeated Here

11 posted on 06/15/2018 2:00:19 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: MeganC

None of the birth certificate controversy would have happened if 0bama had made public his academic records.

Of course, the birth certificate controversy is small potatoes compared to the controversy that would arise if he ever released those records. I guarantee that at least two institutions he attended, the application for admission identifies him as a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia, and that he received Federal student grants because of it.

Either he lied and committed fraud on those institutions and the federal government, or he is not a natural born citizen. Take your pick.


12 posted on 06/15/2018 2:01:21 PM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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To: Seizethecarp; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

yeehah!


13 posted on 06/15/2018 2:05:09 PM PDT by bitt (t\\)
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To: Seizethecarp

By his birth certificate he was ineligible to be President.

Two Supreme Court opinions — Slaughter-House Cases (1872) and Elk v. Wilkins (1884) — affirmed the framers’ originally-intended meaning of “jurisdiction”. In both cases, a child born on U.S. soil, of alien parents, is not subject to U.S. jurisdiction at birth; such child is subject to the jurisdiction of the foreign government to which the child’s father owes allegiance. Consequently, such child is not a 14th Amendment citizen at birth [26].

Since his father was a British national, President Obama was subject to British jurisdiction at birth. His citizenship status at birth was “governed” by British law.


14 posted on 06/15/2018 2:07:11 PM PDT by South Dakota (We need a real independent investigation of Bill/Hillary and Obama's actions)
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To: Seizethecarp

An innocent man would never respond to such an accusation.
Especially one who holds the highest office in the land.
And certainly not twice using obviously manufactured documents both times.


15 posted on 06/15/2018 2:09:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: henkster

“Either he lied and committed fraud on those institutions and the federal government, or he is not a natural born citizen. Take your pick.”

Exactly.


16 posted on 06/15/2018 2:10:38 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: South Dakota

Why did Gov. Linda Lingle(Republican) SEAL his birth records forever?


17 posted on 06/15/2018 2:12:21 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Seizethecarp

It doesn’t matter how many copies of something you have if you can’t produce the original. And fake news is what we have been getting for decades now.


18 posted on 06/15/2018 2:13:01 PM PDT by webheart (Grammar police on the scene.)
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To: bitt; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; circumbendibus; ...

Carl Gallups just said that Mike Zullo will be on Freedom Friday for the full hour from 6-7 EST.


19 posted on 06/15/2018 2:13:17 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Dam dude, you edited the entire piece. At least mention you did.


20 posted on 06/15/2018 2:13:38 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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