Administration rallies for mandatory E-Verify to stop illegal employment

Washington Examiner ^ | June 11, 2018 | Paul Bedard

[GonzoII]

Hoping to kill a lure for illegal immigrants, top Trump administration officials are rallying behind the E-Verify system that requires employers to hire only legal U.S. workers or face a fine.

The heads of the Social Security Administration and Immigration and Customs Enforcement have endorsed the mandatory national use of the voluntary system as a way to curb illegal immigration and cut identity theft.

“I think that we need to look at E-Verify. I think E-Verify is a necessary tool because illegal employment is a magnet that pulls people into this country. So I think E-Verify should be mandated in this country across the board,” said ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan.

[catnipman]

nice chart ... and for the record, i live in Colorado as do my small business clients ...

[RWGinger]

???

So if E verify can identify illegals why would you not favor that?

[2nd amendment mama]

Yeah, and all of mine are here in SC. We also have to report all new hires within 20 days of hire to the State of SC SC new Hire Reporting

[robroys woman]

IMO, an employer has a moral duty to know.

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I agree. But as far as I’m concerned, if a person shows you ID and a valid SSN, you’ve done due diligence.

[robroys woman]

and yet requiring employers to use e-verify to avoid hiring illegal alien workers IS “fascism”?

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I’m soft on that one.

[dsc]

“I agree. But as far as I’m concerned, if a person shows you ID and a valid SSN, you’ve done due diligence.”

That is complicated by our knowledge of millions of illegal aliens using stolen SSNs.

[robroys woman]

That is complicated by our knowledge of millions of illegal aliens using stolen SSNs.

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Yes. But it’s not the employer’s job to police the validity of SSN’s used.

[robroys woman]

That is complicated by our knowledge of millions of illegal aliens using stolen SSNs.

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In fact, I compare it to a bar that checks for ID. It is not their job to ensure that every out of state (or in state, for that matter) driver’s license used for ID is not a forgery. For me, it is their responsibility to accept as authentic anything a reasonable person would accept as authentic.

But I have to admit that if all you give them is a written down SSN, there should be a simple way to verify that the SSN at least belongs to a person with the name you are using.

[dsc]

“I compare it to a bar that checks for ID. It is not their job to ensure that every out of state (or in state, for that matter) driver’s license used for ID is not a forgery.”

I think that if somebody who looks 12 presents an ID showing an age of 40, the police expect the employee to catch that.

If I were a bar owner, I know I would expect it.

Most employers of illegal aliens know dern good and well what they’re doing.

[2nd amendment mama]

Yes. But it’s not the employer’s job to police the validity of SSN’s used.

So, you're okay with enabling illegals to use stolen IDs to take jobs. I use E-Verify all the time to check out our employees. I require a photo ID and a Social Security card for proof of the new hire's identity. Why do you object to that?

[robroys woman]

I use E-Verify all the time to check out our employees. I require a photo ID and a Social Security card for proof of the new hire’s identity. Why do you object to that?

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I’m soft on it. It’s a fringe issue for me regarding freedom and state control.