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Return of the military draft might be what we need
The Evening Sun ^ | May 30, 2018 | Joe Angelino

Posted on 05/31/2018 9:11:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

nuts


41 posted on 06/01/2018 12:53:54 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

To suggest that people won’t or don’t volunteer is not consistent with actual history of people volunteering

The draft is the left’s effort to force “universal service”. i.e. Obozo’s civilian army


42 posted on 06/01/2018 1:23:11 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a bad idea.

In fact, we should bring home most of our troops from overseas posts. We don’t need to be street cops.


43 posted on 06/01/2018 2:30:47 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: AlaskaErik

I can believe that! The last thing I would want to deal with are people that don’t want to be there in the first place. This is a DIFFERENT WORLD than it was when there was a draft back in the sixties.


44 posted on 06/01/2018 2:40:54 AM PDT by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody talked Draft when Obama was President... Democrats love the Draft when they’re not in power.


45 posted on 06/01/2018 2:51:42 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
The Evening Sun, Norwich (Chenango County), NY, in case some are wondering.

Yes, afternoon rags still exist.

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46 posted on 06/01/2018 2:53:46 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Draft these horrible, snowflake millennials and send them to Afghanistan or Somalia so they can see how nice they have it here in the US.

JoMa


47 posted on 06/01/2018 3:07:00 AM PDT by joma89
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To: LeoWindhorse

That is absurd; when the engineers of the Vietnam War admit they made terrible mistakes a few decades later, and none of them are jailed for it, you shouldn’t expect anyone to turn over their children to the military industrial complex. I have no issue with “No tax = no vote”, but requiring service in the military, when our soldiers are still being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan with weapons we sent them 30 years ago, is nonsense. Our foreign policy is far too erratic for that, changing from one president to another.

Some European countries could keep mandatory service because they didn’t waste their citizens’ lives on nation-building.


48 posted on 06/01/2018 3:14:45 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“”Years down the road, as the draftees come of age, we all would reap the benefits of having elected leaders with a shared experience in their background.””

This part caught my eye.

Just make a DD-214 a basic requirement for holding any type of Federal Position. We can demand a college degree, we can just as easily demand a DD-214. About 99% of the time I’s rather see a DD-214 than a college degree, tells me allot more about the person I’m hiring.


49 posted on 06/01/2018 3:27:40 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: ConjunctionJunction

No. Not after all of the social engineering that they’ve done to the military.
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You are absolutely right. By the time these kids reach military induction age, most are recalcitrant, anti-government subverters who would wreak havoc within the ranks. Don’t ask the military to become a reform school. They do not have time for such nonsense.


50 posted on 06/01/2018 3:46:04 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If every person after high school had to give two years service ( no deferments) with the country it could be helpful. Peace Corps, US Public Health Service, Agency for Intl. Deveopment as well as military branches would allow kids to mature and develop.


51 posted on 06/01/2018 3:54:11 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

#5 is wayyyy off base. Yes, there is a ‘military bureaucracy. But even in a Draft force it won’t be made up of draftees. The bureaucracy is made up of officers and very senior NCO’s, which virtually excludes the possibility of draftee origins.


52 posted on 06/01/2018 3:57:35 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look to Israel for a successful draft model that includes both men and women.


53 posted on 06/01/2018 4:24:18 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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To: kearnyirish2
Exactly.

Our government has become so corrupted that our foreign/military policy is effectively purchased by foreign interests.

I can't believe anyone on FreeRepublic could possibly be serious about drafting people so they can be used as foot soldiers for @ssholes like Sen. John McCain (R-ISIS) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-Saudi Arabia).

54 posted on 06/01/2018 4:25:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Boomer One
Israel actually defends its borders, so a draft there might make more sense.

If Israel was drafting soldiers and then sending them to take one side in a civil war in South America, I guarantee you that draft would come to an end immediately.

55 posted on 06/01/2018 4:28:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I disagree with all the points you listed.

For example: “An eagerness to partake in the activities of war is not necessarily good.”

If we have to go to war, one we actually need to win such as an armed invasion of our own countries borders (not the current illegal one), then we need people already in uniform that go to work without hesitation. We need loyal risk takers.

In a real all out war, who’d you rather have defending your area, a bunch of leftward indoctrinees scared of their own shadow, or a bunch of loyal men willing to brutally murder their opponents?


56 posted on 06/01/2018 4:36:48 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Throughout the long history of war military effectiveness was based upon how many fighters you can field. Those days are long since over. In today's military the most powerful weapon on the modern battlefield or battlespace is information. What makes the U.S. military the deadliest fighting force on the planet is that we can access and control the most knowledge of anyone in the fight. These days one pilot or one SEAL team can rain down as much destruction on the enemy as a battalion of boots on the ground or a squadron of WWII aircraft, and it's all based upon the information that they carry into the fight. This is the lesson that the Chinese are learning, evidenced by the rapid shrinking of their numbers in uniform. The fewer bodies that you carry into combat, the fewer you need to move, arm, feed, keep healthy and most importantly, PAY!
57 posted on 06/01/2018 4:41:12 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: redfreedom
In a real all out war, who’d you rather have defending your area, a bunch of leftward indoctrinees scared of their own shadow, or a bunch of loyal men willing to brutally murder their opponents?

Not only would the conscripts be scared of their own shadow, they might believe as the enemy does and side with them at the worst time and get a bunch of good men killed.

At the end of the day, the most important issue isn't who or how many are in the fight, it's whether or not we still have a country worth fighting and dying for.

58 posted on 06/01/2018 4:50:39 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve heard it time and again, even here, when talking about poor treatment of veterans...”Hey, nobody forced them to sign up”.

But if a draft seems to big of a hurdle, I’d institute a War Tax. Everybody pays, no exceptions. We simply have to have a way for everyone to have some skin in the game.


59 posted on 06/01/2018 5:09:35 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only country that was successful with a draft has been Israel.


60 posted on 06/01/2018 5:20:46 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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