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The Land of the Middle-Aged Child
Steyn Online ^ | 24 May 2018 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/25/2018 6:24:02 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Yesterday's cable and radio shows were full of news about Michael Rotondo, whose parents went to court in upstate New York to get him to move out of the house. Their house. The judge agreed with mom and pop, and ordered him to leave. The kid says he just needs more time. Young Master Rotondo is thirty years old.

As with almost everything else in the news these days, this rang a distant bell with me. My bestselling book After America (personally autographed copies of which are exclusively available from the SteynOnline bookstore) contains an account of a similar case. It didn't go so well for the parents:

In creaky melodramas of the old school, there came a moment when the plucky heroine would announce her intention to go ahead with some ill-advised courtship, and her father would threaten to cut her off without a cent.

Easier said than done. In Italy, a court ordered, upon pain of having his assets seized, Giancarlo Casagrande of Bergamo to pay his daughter an allowance of 350 euros—approximately $525—every month. Signor Casagrande was then 60. His daughter Marina was 32. She was supposed to have graduated with a degree in philosophy eight years earlier but, though her classes ended way back at the beginning of the century, she was still working on her thesis. So Signor Casagrande was obliged to pay up, either in perpetuity or until the completion of Marina's thesis, whichever comes sooner. Her thesis is about the Holy Grail. Which Marina would have little use for, given that she's already found a source of miraculous life-transforming powers in Papa's checkbook.

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1 posted on 05/25/2018 6:24:02 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
Francesca will live a worse life than her parents. She will do unpaid traineeships and low-paid short-term contract work because in Europe's catatonic labor market the young (if one can call 29 "young") are already paying the price for the lavish salaries and benefits awarded to the unsackable middle-aged.

Maybe her response is the logical one.

2 posted on 05/25/2018 6:29:50 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Rummyfan

Every parent has a responsibility to make sure their children can make it on their own. In cases like these we have a catastrophic failure of parenting that rises to the level of child abuse.

I bet they “raised” him by putting him in front of a TV and/or computer and forgetting about him entirely, until his continued existence became too inconvenient for their intended lifestyles.


3 posted on 05/25/2018 6:45:39 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: Rummyfan

I had the understanding that while I was always welcome at home, the expectation was that after college I had to move out. I WANTED to move out.

My first apartment as an adult was a rather sparten one, but I loved it. It was my space.


4 posted on 05/25/2018 6:55:06 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Rummyfan

Mr. Steyn is a national treasure.

L


5 posted on 05/25/2018 7:00:43 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: redgolum

By the time I was 30 I’d been out of my parents house for almost a decade and had a stint in the USMC under my belt.

L


6 posted on 05/25/2018 7:02:01 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: redgolum

I also wanted to move out and be on my own.

All my friends did the same. We didn’t have elegant bachelor pads, but our places were our own. And we knew we had to work, learn to budget, etc. In order to be responsible adults.

We were proud that we were becoming responsible adults and able to live on our own. Is that so unusual today?


7 posted on 05/25/2018 7:04:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yeah...I left home at 17 and traveled around the country with little or no money. Started working on a farm at 12. Consequently I treat my 8 year old son as an adult because he needs to learn to be a man. That IS the responsibility of the father IMO!


8 posted on 05/25/2018 7:12:38 AM PDT by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: Rummyfan

Todays kids are in their 30’s, they spend more time at Comic Cons, and Play Stations, along with posting BS on their social sites. When I was 24 yrs old, I already had a home, car, boat and family. LOL, earning 6K a year, but gas was still 25 cents a gallon and a decent used car was around 1K. Hamburger was 49 cents a pound. Boy did I learn economics and accounting by OJT. About 30 yrs later I lost my job, but so what, I started my own business and made even more. The problem today is Fun before Motivation, the work ethic of the last century dissolved. We are in the age of Give Me and Ritalin. Who is to blame? We all are.


9 posted on 05/25/2018 7:21:28 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Damn Tag line, fouled up again, thanks cursor.)
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To: Rummyfan

- Bring back the military draft & boot camp; if even just for national service projects.

- Do away with “feel good” awards for the losers and 60-girl cheerleader squads full of fatties.

- Re-institute corporal punishment in schools.


10 posted on 05/25/2018 7:24:46 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: redgolum
Our daughter moved out at 18 when she went to college and never moved back and is now 36 married with 2 children and gainfully employed. Our son was given an “eviction notice” at age 20. He was told that the person whose name does not appear on the mortgage will be moving out in 1 week. He did. He is now 32, gainfully employed (wish he was married:) and lives on his own.
11 posted on 05/25/2018 7:26:42 AM PDT by bella1 (Je suis deplorable)
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There are “children” in every age group — including seniors — who expect someone else to take care of them. Its the cancer of the Welfare State and its getting worse as time goes on.


12 posted on 05/25/2018 7:38:16 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Rummyfan
I shipped out for basic training 7 days after I graduated HS.

3 of my 8 kids irritated me and got kicked out of my house at 17 to 18 years old. I have a 22 year old who will probably stay a home paying rent for a long time. He pays rent, guards the house and since he isn't chasing women he doesn't need much in life.

13 posted on 05/25/2018 7:44:05 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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To: gr8eman

You got it
Teaching my two sons 8 11 the same
They see me leavd every day at 6
My 18 yr old daughter has full time job and pays rent in a house
Gotta work yo be happy
All work and no play ain’t good but
All play and no work is patheric and empty


14 posted on 05/25/2018 7:50:46 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Rummyfan

btt


15 posted on 05/25/2018 7:51:13 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: redgolum

As soon as I graduated college and came home I had to pay $70 per month rent to live at home. I couldn’t wait to move out on my own and never thought about going back.

Mr. GG2s 43 year old nephew lives with his BIL and sister. They kicked him out once for a year but he couldn’t cut it and moved back in. My BIL hates it and wants to kick him out but my SIL won’t agree to it. This has been going on for the 13 years I have known them. I actually really like the nephew and I feel bad because he just seems to be wasting his life.


16 posted on 05/25/2018 7:57:58 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Lurker

By the time I was 30, I have been out of my parents house for 12 years, and I had bought my first house 4 years earlier. I am female & I was making about $6 an hour at that time. That was May of 1966, and I am selling my 3rd house now.


17 posted on 05/25/2018 8:03:34 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I was 19. Had a job in a donut shop and got a tiny studio that was a converted back porch on an old Victorian house owned by the local funeral directer. $180 a month, and I barely had enough for utilities and food. But it was mine, and I was free!


18 posted on 05/25/2018 8:07:56 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: thoughtomator

Yup.

Been saying that for years.

I also point out that there is no tragedy when parents whose children were raised by an unending sequence of babysitters, teachers, coaches, and pastors find themselves unvisited in some nursing home.

They made a choice.


19 posted on 05/25/2018 8:16:03 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

Oh hell no.

The men who chose to put their lives on the line for their country have done nothing to earn the pure, burning betrayal (which is absolutely what re-instituting the draft would be) of saddling them with a raft of potential Bagdahls. Don’t even suggest doing that disgusting shit to them, and should you choose to push for that you can expect the rest of us to point out loudly and continuously that no patriot would ever do such a thing.


20 posted on 05/25/2018 8:22:12 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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