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To: Kaslin

“Senate Democrats delivered a major victory to President Obama when they blocked a Republican resolution to reject a six-nation nuclear accord with Iran on Thursday, ensuring the landmark deal will take effect without a veto showdown between Congress and the White House.

A procedural vote fell two short of the 60 needed to break a Democratic filibuster. It culminated hours of debate in the Senate and capped weeks of discord since the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China announced the agreement with Iran in July.”

I’m still scratching my head over this:

The last time I read the Constitution, I thought it said that a 2/3’s vote is needed in the Senate to RATIFY a treaty, while this article implies that a 2/3’s vote in the Senate (and House, I guess) is needed to REJECT a treaty (after a presidential veto).

What the hell is going on here?


9 posted on 05/08/2018 5:33:24 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

Executive agreements are international agreements but they’re not treaties.

They don’t need to be ratified while treaties the consent of two-thirds of the Senate.

The latter are purposely difficult to pass because they create binding legal obligation and are the supreme law of the land.

Obama and Kerry couldn’t craft a treaty acceptable to the Senate because would never agree to the kind of terms that would make a treaty pass the Senate.

They just punted the issue and contented themselves with a less than ideal agreement.

Now Trump has voided Obama’s signature foreign policy achievement. He promised to do that on the campaign trail as a candidate.

And he fulfilled it as President.


13 posted on 05/08/2018 5:43:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: BobL

[ “Senate Democrats delivered a major victory to President Obama when they blocked a Republican resolution to reject a six-nation nuclear accord with Iran on Thursday, ensuring the landmark deal will take effect without a veto showdown between Congress and the White House.

A procedural vote fell two short of the 60 needed to break a Democratic filibuster. It culminated hours of debate in the Senate and capped weeks of discord since the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China announced the agreement with Iran in July.”

I’m still scratching my head over this:

The last time I read the Constitution, I thought it said that a 2/3’s vote is needed in the Senate to RATIFY a treaty, while this article implies that a 2/3’s vote in the Senate (and House, I guess) is needed to REJECT a treaty (after a presidential veto).

What the hell is going on here? ]

Bob Corker happened...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlAW9bspm58


22 posted on 05/08/2018 10:49:47 PM PDT by GraceG ("Trust, But Verify the Plan!")
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To: BobL

I was so hoping today Trump would say another reason for ditching it was that the Senate did not ratify it. And that is another part of this long process to bring back Constitutional government to these United States of America.

That would have been sweet.


23 posted on 05/08/2018 10:52:25 PM PDT by taterjay
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