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To: fireman15
"Even with perfect site conditions in extremely sunny areas few if any installations will produce enough power to recoup the amount of money that it costs to purchase and install them during their expected useful life."

In California, on average, a 1 kW panel will produce 4.5 kWh of energy per day. Assuming an installed cost of $1 per Watt, and being paid 15 cents per kWh, solar panels will pay for themselves in 1000/(4.5*0.15) = 1481 days or a little over 4 years.

One assumption is that the panels have a good south-facing orientation, which won't be the case when they are mandatory. The second consideration is that everyone gets 15 cents for the solar power because of net metering, even if the power is not needed by the grid. That can't continue if everyone produces power because backup power will become too expensive.

32 posted on 05/07/2018 9:38:28 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer
One assumption is that the panels have a good south-facing orientation, which won't be the case when they are mandatory. The second consideration is that everyone gets 15 cents for the solar power because of net metering, even if the power is not needed by the grid. That can't continue if everyone produces power because backup power will become too expensive.

The devil is always in the details.

In California, on average, a 1 kW panel will produce 4.5 kWh of energy per day. Assuming an installed cost of $1 per Watt, and being paid 15 cents per kWh, solar panels will pay for themselves in 1000/(4.5*0.15) = 1481 days or a little over 4 years.

This is the type of calculation that my “off the grid” friends have found is not accurate... at least up here in the great northwest... typically by a factor of 3 or more. And “off the grid” folks are not able to get $.15 per kwh. They can only keep their storage batteries topped off. Any additional power generated is just dumped (wasted).

I had a life lesson in this when I was young. I worked for 8 years lumber remanufacturing mill owned by my family. A machine would be procured that would make $.o3 per lineal foot and run at 100 feet per minute. So the calculation would be made $.03 x 100fpm x 8hrs x 60min = $1440 per day. Unfortunately, even if enough work was found to keep the machine running all the time... with labor costs, all the support machinery required, the lease payment, and the fact that it was lucky if during an 8 hour day you were lucky to get even a third of the projected output things never worked any where near what was initially calculated.

58 posted on 05/07/2018 10:48:03 AM PDT by fireman15
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