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1 posted on 04/24/2018 6:35:02 AM PDT by SandRat
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But Sen. Martin Quezada, D-Glendale, said the lack of specificity on how the saved dollars would be used does not bother him. In fact, he said that's a key reason he's supporting it. "We've shown the political will here today that we can raise revenue to take care of all of the other issues,'' Quezada said.

WTF?

2 posted on 04/24/2018 6:39:17 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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If you Arizonans would only follow the example of the fine people of Illinois, your problems would be solved. Illinois car registrations are $101/year and that is for any car of any value (including that $1000 used junker). But because Illinois raises so much $ with car registrations, they have no fiscal concerns in state. And do not need tolls on every highway in the suburbs of Chicago. </sarcasm>


4 posted on 04/24/2018 6:59:21 AM PDT by Freedumb
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U-Haul hurt most.


6 posted on 04/24/2018 7:01:10 AM PDT by Paladin2
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"Sen. Martin Quezada, D-Glendale, said the lack of specificity on how the saved dollars would be used does not bother him. In fact, he said that's a key reason he's supporting it. "We've shown the political will here today that we can raise revenue to take care of all of the other issues,'' Quezada said."

Dem SPEAK for TAXING EVERYTHING!!!
7 posted on 04/24/2018 7:01:14 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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If you drive around AZ between Oct-Apr, you see as many out-of-state snowbird plates as AZ ones. Why should us AZ permanent residents subsidize these carpet-baggers?

Raise the gas tax instead, and start charging a HUGE sales fee on these toys-for-the-rich called EVs.

Then pass a bill that out-of-state vehicles that spend more than one week a year in AZ must purchase a registration tag.

If you did that, you could LOWER the registration fee for AZ permanent residents. Problem solved.


8 posted on 04/24/2018 7:05:59 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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Toll Roads!!!! Yep, that’s the answer, TOLL ROADS!!!! Solves everyone’s problems, no ‘tax’ increase. Yep, a winner all the way!!! LOL.


10 posted on 04/24/2018 7:27:31 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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We have that in GA. It’s call a value added tax. Last year on an 11 year old vehicle I paid around $100. When it was new the tax was about $225. It’s the most despised tax on the state.


11 posted on 04/24/2018 7:54:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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$18? That’s chump change.

In CA they raised it $100, along with the Gas Tax.


12 posted on 04/24/2018 7:57:11 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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"And that translates out to $18.06 . . ."

And guaranteed to go up each year.

14 posted on 04/24/2018 10:06:30 AM PDT by Oatka (tHE)
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That is supposed to be financed largely through the gasoline tax. But that 18-cent-a-gallon levy has not been raised since 1991, when gasoline was in the $1.20-a-gallon range.

What the hell does the fact that it hasn't been raised since 1991 have to do with anything? They always make it sound like a bad thing that they haven't been able to jack up the taxes every single year. This is a feature not a bug.

And while there are more vehicles on the road, they also are more fuel efficient, with the number of road miles driven — and the wear and tear on the roads — increasing faster than new revenues.

This is absolute bull excrement. The wear and tear of an automobile on the roads is absolutely negligible. It's the big rigs that generates most of the 'wear' on roads. Even with the 'reduction' of revenues due to the cars being more efficient (something I've never seen quantified in any major way), the increase in the number of vehicles will, for the most part make up for any 'loss' due to more efficient cars.

This article is simply apologetics for increasing taxes on vehicles.

The really important part is this:

The Arizona Constitution spells out that any increase in taxes and fees can be approved by only a two-thirds vote of both the House and Senate. And that margin is not there.

So the measure crafted by Worsley, along with Rep. Noel Campbell, R-Prescott, leaves the actual amount to be raised to the ADOT director. And a recent Arizona Supreme Court ruling concluded that such agency-raised fees are not subject to that two-thirds vote.

In other words, the law says they need a 2/3 majority to raise taxes, but they are simply going to ignore the law by claiming it's just an 'agency' that is raising a 'fee'.

As usual, the law means nothing. That is, unless it is directed at us. We must obey every rule, regulation and decree by every single layer of government, lest we be fined or imprisoned, and ignorance of said laws, rules, or regulations is no excuse at all, even though it is literally impossible to keep up with every single new law, rule, and regulation imposed upon us every day.

15 posted on 04/24/2018 12:27:04 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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