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Why so many Turks are losing faith in Islam
Al Monitor ^ | 18 April 2018 | Mustafa Akyol

Posted on 04/23/2018 11:28:45 AM PDT by Cronos

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1 posted on 04/23/2018 11:28:45 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

That and a nickel buys a nice cup of jack squat.

They’re going to have to do something about it, before Turkey becomes another Iran.


2 posted on 04/23/2018 11:32:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cronos

Islam is a “religion” of death and destruction.

Maybe they want a life?


3 posted on 04/23/2018 11:33:02 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Cronos

Deism: The belief in God, without religion.

Describes me to a T.


4 posted on 04/23/2018 11:36:14 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump has implemented Supply Side Economics!!!)
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To: Cronos
The most interesting question is why so many Turks are losing their faith,

because mohammedanism is antireason and antireality

5 posted on 04/23/2018 11:36:32 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Lurkinanloomin

There was an article, years ago, in Stars&Stripes about this very same thing happening in Iraq. As things started to settle down, participation at the mosque’s was declining. Give some folks some internet access, Google and Youtube and things start to change.

On the local satellite provider, we used to get an channel, MBC. Showed movies, etc. But they also showed commercials and in those commercials you’d sometimes see car shows, with the cars that have all the hydraulics and bounce, and rap competitions. Those kids aren’t going to a mosque or getting on a rug 5 times a day. Not unless their momma makes them.

We used to joke that the Global War on Terror could be one with showing Jersey Shore, the Real World and giving them unfettered access to the internet.

Makes you wonder why China and Iran block so much of it.


6 posted on 04/23/2018 11:39:05 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

It could very well turn out in the end that the most radicalized Muslims are the ones who are living in Western countries.


7 posted on 04/23/2018 11:39:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: qaz123

And then there were all the 911 terrorists with degrees in engineering.


8 posted on 04/23/2018 11:43:37 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree whole heartedly with that statement.

Saw this video a long time ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WgEvpzVxkk

Maybe it’s just me, but it sure seems like this guy is a sh*tty liar but also wants to tell the truth. And, at some point the reporter asks him point blank and from the backgroud you hear a woman’s voice. She says something about sending a request and they’ll get back to the reporter.


9 posted on 04/23/2018 11:47:01 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Moonman62

Amazing to me that we allow our enemies to be educated in our own backyards.


10 posted on 04/23/2018 11:47:43 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Cronos

The report says that because archaic interpretations of Islam cannot persuade the new generation on issues such as the “problem of evil” (why God allows evil to take place), some imam hatip students have begun questioning the faith. Instead of adopting atheism, the report added, these post-Islamic youths embrace the milder alternative: “deism,” or the belief in God but without religion.

...

Alvin Plantinga, a well respected Christian philosopher formally demonstrated that the “problem of evil” can be explained by God giving us free will.

Plantinga has been credited with moving philosophy toward desecularization.


11 posted on 04/23/2018 11:47:45 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Cronos

Erdogan has gone full megalomaniacal. He thinks himself Sultan, Caliph, & Mahdi all rolled into one.

Bad news for secular Turks & any fan of Kemal Ataturk. Erdogan’s palace has Putin’s skinned a mile.

Watch for the remosqification of Hagia Sophia next.


12 posted on 04/23/2018 12:41:14 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Cronos

They like eating fish on Friday’s.


13 posted on 04/23/2018 12:49:35 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Cronos

Turkey was once a secular democracy (more or less). But they chose to become an Islamic dictatorship and go back to the seventh century.


14 posted on 04/23/2018 12:59:09 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: Cronos
“deism,” or the belief in God but without religion.

Okay. Don't define "God" and you don't know what you're talking about. Now, define "God", and voila!, you've got doctrine, i.e., religion.

15 posted on 04/23/2018 1:04:46 PM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Cronos
Wow! This worse than plain old fake news...

Stinking Pile of Excrement Alert!

16 posted on 04/23/2018 3:19:14 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

I’m in the same ballpark but I do understand the value of religion (other than Islam) in teaching the basic values of what is right and wrong. Yes, good parenting can do that also, but believing in a higher power of something far bigger than self has lots of redeeming value IMHO.

Perhaps some Sunday school while growing up but then let the child make up their own mind about whether or not to continue going to church would be one alternative to an all or nothing approach.


17 posted on 04/23/2018 3:50:35 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a Moral Cancer on Society!)
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Ozturk argued that despite the conviction among religious conservatives that they are in the midst of a golden age, something very fundamental is slipping out of their hands, as “the new generations are getting indifferent, even distant, to the Islamic worldview.”

The trend away from religion is worldwide. The Muslim world is just farther behind the west. Turkey is leading the Islamic world in this regard because they have a growing economy and a history of secularism. The internet is killing religion as more and more people around then world are able to see through the lies.

18 posted on 04/23/2018 4:26:17 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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Because Islam is a death-cult founded by a pedophile psychopath named Muhammed.

Muhammed was a pagan, demonic, pig of a thief and a murderer. Any Muslim that takes offense I just have to say, read the Koran.


19 posted on 04/23/2018 6:15:23 PM PDT by WMarshal (Molon Labe!)
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As with all religions, they are pathways not a domain for establishing residence. So few use their pathway and reach the ultimate goal and reason for the path. Many religions have discovery moments where the wrong path for a particular individual flashes obvious.


20 posted on 04/23/2018 6:19:51 PM PDT by USCG SimTech
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