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The "Open Question" On Vaccines and Autism
CBS News ^ | May 12, 2008 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 04/22/2018 7:17:20 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 04/22/2018 7:17:21 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Asking the wrong question leads to the wrong conclusion. The right question is not ... is there a link between vaccines and autism.

the right question is ... Who controls the citizen’s health care? The government or the citizen?


2 posted on 04/22/2018 7:20:32 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oldie but goodie? How so? For fake news?


3 posted on 04/22/2018 7:22:32 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Autism increases because the establishment dumbs down the definition.

For God’s sake, there is now constant talk of “autism spectrum”, and seriously, they’ve got most of us on it. It’s BS. Even more is ADD.

Look into the gov-driven education system. They are hand-tied on the 1 hand to do anything about difficult kids, and on the other they love the dollars for “disabled” kids.

It’s true. Ask my mom, the special-ed teacher/leader.


4 posted on 04/22/2018 7:28:36 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Gee. Do you think in a hedonistic debauched culture pregnant women using drugs of all sorts and alcohol just might be spawning offspring with scrambled brains? Sorry but there is no cure or effective treatment. Today’s medical scientists simply do not understand the biochemical pathways the human brain that make higher intellectual function possible, much less how to treat defects. Its not the vaccines.


5 posted on 04/22/2018 7:29:52 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ADD is easy - it’s parents who actually believe in Dr. Spock and don’t spank their kids.

Autism, I suspect, is more a WPA for the millions of people who majored in Psych and wanted to actually work in the field.


6 posted on 04/22/2018 7:30:05 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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Vaccines can't cause autism because we rely so much on vaccines.

It's like that time many years ago when I was having a problem with my old '76 Honda Civic. "It sounds like the carburetor," said my wife. Being a man, I ignored her. I checked every ignition component possible, replaced everything I could replace, and the problem remained.

"Maybe it's the carburetor," my wife persisted.

"It can't be the carburetor," I replied, in my best patronizing male tones.

"And why not?" she demanded.

"Because," I said, imperiously, "I can't fix a carburetor!"

7 posted on 04/22/2018 7:31:04 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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There is absolutely no reason to think vaccines cause autism. No valid research has ever indicated that vaccines cause autism. It’s disappointing to see Dr. Healy giving support to an idea with no basis at all.


8 posted on 04/22/2018 7:33:51 AM PDT by David in Cal
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It seems strange to me that Autism/Augsbergers spectrum cases seem to be vastly greater in the US.

Much more uncommon in Scandinavia and northern Continental Europe.

And seemingly rare in Asia, Russia and Baltics.

Of course they have so many other child health issues that it might get lost in shuffle.

But there does appear to be an issue in the US that needs addressed.


9 posted on 04/22/2018 7:36:43 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People who question the government line on the safety of these vaccines are attacked most viciously as ‘”Anti-vaxxers”

Child affected personal experience here


10 posted on 04/22/2018 7:40:05 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: allendale

You do realize that your last 2 sentences are contradictory?


11 posted on 04/22/2018 7:42:08 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: taxcontrol

I see plenty of lefties who angrily denounce any vaccine doubtlers/refuseniks and demand they be quarantined or even imprisoned.

Meanwhile, they gladly throw the borders open to multitudes with active cases of infectious disease.


12 posted on 04/22/2018 7:42:41 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Great Vaxxer bait. Comments should be rife with hypocrisy about Attkisson.

“According to Healy, when she began researching autism and vaccines she found credible published, peer-reviewed scientific studies that support the idea of an association. That seemed to counter what many of her colleagues had been saying for years. She dug a little deeper and was surprised to find that the government has not embarked upon some of the most basic research that could help answer the question of a link.
The more she dug, she says, the more she came to believe the government and medical establishment were intentionally avoiding the question because they were afraid of the answer.”

The fact is that Polio was on the decline before Salk came along...just one matter which clearly points to other factors for consideration.

Healy’s right: It’s a “sad open question.”

But don’t tell that to “vaxxers.”


13 posted on 04/22/2018 7:47:59 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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And based on others’ comments while I was writing:

A believe that there is a mental issue that many young children have that cannot be fixed by being “better parents” or some such solution.

I know many great parents in the US that have the burden of children who show the traits identified in descriptions of Aspergers Syndrome and Autism.

But with an equally large circle of friends in Northern Europe, I know no one who has a similar child. It cannot be explained away as poor parenting.

Though I could believe it is handed down through damaged genes or some other type of hereditary issue.


14 posted on 04/22/2018 7:52:41 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Did anyone else read the report on drudge.com about the effect of low frequencies on the mind. Makes me wonder are all these electrical appliances we have in ever increasing numbers possibly the problem!


15 posted on 04/22/2018 7:53:08 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvete)
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To: logi_cal869

“The fact is that Polio was on the decline before Salk came along...”


It certainly was not. Where on earth did you get that info?

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16 posted on 04/22/2018 7:54:22 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Autism”, another word for “I hate being a parent, and I am too lazy to discipline my child so I blame their out of control behavior on vaccinations.”


17 posted on 04/22/2018 8:01:26 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Scary stuff, when parents having a child today realize there's at least an estimated 1 in 150 chance their child will have an autism disorder

What the author doesn't say is that the majority of people on the spectrum are fully capable of functioning that way, and would not have been considered autistic 30 years ago.

Speaking as one, I do not consider myself a "public health crisis". I am what I am. And I will fight to the death anybody who tries to force me into being "normal".
18 posted on 04/22/2018 8:01:55 AM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: allendale

So we don’t understand all the “biomedical pathways,” and all of the chemicals that pregnant women use and abuse could definitely be the cause. But NOT things such as the TDAP vaccine, which has never been tested on pregnant women but is routinely given to them. Or the flu vaccine, now routinely given to pregnant women, never tested for safety for them, and includes thimerisol. But of course, these could have no effect on a developing fetus, because the government and Pharma industry tells us they don’t. SMH


19 posted on 04/22/2018 8:14:50 AM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: David in Cal

If I post hundreds of research articles from all over the world showing links between vaccines and autism will you take the time to read them? Just because they are not in your “approved” journals does not mean they do not exist. They are literally HUNDREDS of them. And it terrifies me that freepers are as brainwashed as those on the democratic underground when it comes to believing that their government (CDC, fda), etc., would share the research with them if it was out there. Have mercy.


20 posted on 04/22/2018 8:19:44 AM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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