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First the chlorine, then chaos and death in Syria attack
AP ^ | April 17, 2018 | SARAH EL DEEB

Posted on 04/17/2018 3:12:10 PM PDT by McGruff

Residents of the Syrian town of Douma were packed into underground shelters amid bombardment when the gas began to spread. Suddenly, panic ensued.

As shouts of “chlorine, chlorine!” rang out, some ran into the night and fainted in the street. Others climbed to rooftops, hoping they’d be safer rising above the gas. Dozens didn’t make it out at all, some stumbling on stairwells, out of breath, where they were later found dead.

The bodies were still there the next morning, strewn around the buildings, including toddlers and young children.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


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If they were in underground shelters how did Assad bomb them. Where are the bomb craters?
1 posted on 04/17/2018 3:12:11 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Chlorine gas is over twice as heavy as air. No bombs necessary.


2 posted on 04/17/2018 3:14:05 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: McGruff

Two different news organizations (OAN and some Brit outfit) are reporting that 1) there was no gas—none of the residents in the area heard, saw, or smelled anything; and 2) the ER video was pure fiction. The docs merely responded to the screaming which was done by the camera-carrying adults. No patients were kept in hospital, none died. But the camera crew ran like Hell after they got some footage.

Methinks The President was suckered by pix of crying children.


3 posted on 04/17/2018 3:18:46 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: McGruff
Any bodies? Those guys yelling around with the cameras should be able to produce them.

Someone, somewhere (France?) says these are the Sarin/chlorine/WeDunno bombs.


4 posted on 04/17/2018 3:23:54 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: McGruff

From the article:

The Associated Press spoke to rescuers, medics and numerous residents of Douma for their accounts of what took place. Some were reached in rebel-held areas in northern Syria where they were evacuated after the attack, while others were still in Douma.

Witness Ahmed now living in rebel controlled area:

Soon after the attack, Ahmed was among thousands evacuated from Douma as the town surrendered to government forces.
He believes the attack was clearly carried out by Syrian government forces. “It was like an earthquake,” he said, speaking to the AP from northern Syria. “The town was facing an earthquake.”

Witness now in rebel controlled area.

Abu Humam took video footage that showed one apartment with at least a dozen bodies, including at least seven toddlers and young children. None had any wounds, and one woman in the footage appeared to have foam around her mouth
“Some were in the bathroom and were trying to wash, but nothing saved them. They all lost their lives,” Abu Humam said, speaking from the rebel-held town of al-Bab in northern Syria.

It has been said that the story of the chemical attack was a hoax prepared by terrorist rebels who were about to be defeated by the Syrian army.

After the supposed gas attack the terrorist rebels were transported to rebel controlled territory.

It appears that the AP sources for this story were the terrorist rebels who are said to have made up the story of the gas attack.


5 posted on 04/17/2018 3:26:59 PM PDT by detective
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To: ninenot

There used to be some videos on YouTube of “The White Helmets” rehearsing attack scenes in Aleppo while that siege was on going. Seems every time the terrorists are about to be overwhelmed by the UN recognized government they stage a gas attack and slip out of town.


6 posted on 04/17/2018 3:30:47 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Chlorine gas is some nasty stuff. Easy to make, easy to deploy, and causes a horrible death. Upon exposure to chlorine gas, you will drown in your own body fluids, which is caused by your lungs attempting to dilute the absorbed gas by producing fluid and mucus to counteract inhaling the gas.

These missile strikes weren’t meant so much as to curtail the production of chlorine, as much as destroying the methods of weaponizing it for use on the populace, or anyone for that matter.


7 posted on 04/17/2018 3:30:58 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: McGruff

In December of 1915 at Ypres the Germans released 88 tons of gas from 3000 cylinders. It was a far more deadly chlorine-phosgene mix. 69 were killed and 1069 were wounded. The Germans released it in the very gas friendly wet environment of Belgium in December.

Now Assad, famous for being -far- more efficient then any German ever dreamed of, uses a mere TWO cylinders of chlorine and nerve gas to kill the same 70. It is a near 100% fatal rate. No thousands of badly wounded being evacuated to western hospitals are anywhere to be seen. And the nerve gas is some advanced variety that kills the victim, yet none of the rescuers are affected in the slightest. The only protection they need is a bandana and a bottle of water.

This is a third rate propaganda effort. I miss the days when they respected us enough to at least put some effort into the war propaganda.

Assad didn’t conduct a one helicopter, two cylinder attack, that outperformed the Germans doing it with 1500 cylinders per each one used by Assad. This is deep state intel community BS. It is certified by McCain and his diseased brain and the Dingbat Theresa May and Macron who wants to curry favor with jihadis to mollify his own radicals.

Pure BS.


8 posted on 04/17/2018 3:36:06 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's bes friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: McGruff

When I hear the arguments for bombing Syria because it used chemical weapons against it’s own citizens I have to wonder what the official reaction would be to a country that killed seventy six people with a banned chemical weapon?


9 posted on 04/17/2018 3:37:03 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: McGruff

Debunked, other than to the Neocons here.


10 posted on 04/17/2018 3:38:46 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: AAABEST

Where are the thousand plus badly wounded being evacuated to modern hospitals? We just get the 70 dead and a few people to get a bottled water poured over their heads.

No wounded.

Syria, more efficient that Germany ever dreamed of. Does with two cylinders what took the German engineers 3000.


11 posted on 04/17/2018 3:38:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's bes friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: McGruff

Let’s have a thorough investigation and allow AP to submit whatever it has, including cross-examination, witness protection follow-up, and rebuttal. Who is afraid of doing this? So far, not the Russians.


12 posted on 04/17/2018 3:40:13 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: AAABEST

Chlorine gas turns the moisture inside your lungs to acid. Very easy to verify in a basic autopsy.


13 posted on 04/17/2018 3:43:34 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: MeganC

Syria’s got nothing on Janet Reno.


14 posted on 04/17/2018 3:44:54 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: BobL

“...Debunked, other than to the Neocons here...”

So says the neolib searching for anything to say bad about Trump...


15 posted on 04/17/2018 3:45:46 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: McGruff

Chlorine has been a hallmark of the Al-Qeada/ISIS idiots over there.
Every prior chlorine attack has been those f-wits.


16 posted on 04/17/2018 3:50:59 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: ninenot

OAN got a Syrian gov’t escort for their story. Can it really be believed? A conspiracy-minded friend believes it was perpetrated by the Israelis to keep the US from dis-engaging in Syria. The nonsense goes on & on. I don’t know who to believe & I’m not sure I even care anymore.

We can’t trust ANYONE. At all.


17 posted on 04/17/2018 4:04:50 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: blackdog

Exactly.

So when does the US prosecute/bomb the Clinton Administration officials who were responsible for a chemical attack on US citizens?


18 posted on 04/17/2018 4:07:00 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: JBW1949

Trump doesn’t believe it either, which is why he called off the further attacks and sanctions. In fact, the only ones still clinging to the idea that Assad gassed the terrorists are the Neocons, like McCain/Linda.


19 posted on 04/17/2018 4:10:23 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Twotone

I draw my conclusions WITHOUT the help of the Deep State. The way I see it, Assad had absolutely NO REASON to gas these terrorists. The war was over in that sector and he knows full well that gassing kills very few people, but gets the Neocons into a rage.

I also base my opinion on this Frontline documentary. Note that Frontline is PBS, which means they are NOT Alex Jones, Russia, or anything else the Neocons throw at us.

I dare any of the Neocons here to watch this...as it exposes the degree of BRAINWASHING the Deep State (with the media) is doing to us. And no, I don’t expect the Neocons to watch, but others with an open mind might just want to get a look at what Syria looks like under Assad (hint, it is way, way, different than what the Deep State wants us to think).

So watch this, if you dare...

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/inside-assads-syria/


20 posted on 04/17/2018 4:18:59 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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