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The US Navy appears to have fooled Russia and Syria with a warship ruse before the strike
BI (Business Inciter) ^ | April 16, 2018 | Alex Lockie

Posted on 04/16/2018 11:29:10 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

When President Donald Trump threatened to send missiles at Syria — despite Russia's promises to counter-attack— all eyes turned towards the US Navy's sole destroyer in the region. But that may have been a trick.

Pundits openly scoffed at Trump's announcement of the strike days in advance, especially considering his criticism of Barack Obama for similar talk, but the actual strike appeared to go down well.

In April 2017, two US Navy destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean steamed into the region, let off 59 cruise missiles in response to suspected gas attacks by the Syrian government, and left unpunished and unpursued.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: 201704; airstrikes; trumpgwot; usn; usnavy
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To: McGruff

Have you seen who is on the Board of Directors of said chemical research facility. The deep state lost an asset

http://www.nti.org/about/board-and-advisors/


21 posted on 04/16/2018 12:34:29 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta
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To: Navy Patriot
HARM: High-speed Anti-Radiation Missile.

It homes in on radar systems.

Or spec ops go in and use a Javelin.

Or we hack them like we (or the Israelis) did once.

22 posted on 04/16/2018 12:42:40 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: rednesss

I don’t fully understand this strike.

On one hand, it was “red line” action that Obama was too scared to do. The intelligence (honest intelligence) does seem to support that this was Assad using barrel bombs from helicopters. However, the administration gave the Russians advanced warning and they even removed their naval assets according to some reports.

So we can be certain that Russia advised Assad, and he moved all his chemicals and assets out of the buildings that were bombed. Israeli intelligence confirms this.

So, basically we spent $100 million worth of missiles to blow up empty buildings.

Yeah, I understand the message of not crossing the red line, but I think Assad and Putin are having a good laugh that the Americans blew off a bunch of expensive fireworks for not much more than show.


23 posted on 04/16/2018 12:43:09 PM PDT by Obadiah (Truth is hate speech to those who hate truth.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Once the Syrians/Russians turned on their homing radar, which generates a lot of energy, it’s location is revealed and the radar installation can be targeted and destroyed.


24 posted on 04/16/2018 12:44:18 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Navy Patriot
"In April 2017, two US Navy destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean steamed into the region, let off 59 cruise missiles in response to suspected gas attacks by the Syrian government, and left unpunished and unpursued..."

See, right here is where the article starts to come undone. Two U.S. destroyers in one ocean and no collision?

Right.

25 posted on 04/16/2018 12:52:53 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: rednesss

“59 x $1.4 million a piece = $82,600,000 win for Raytheon.”

What waste.

If Prez Trump just gave me ONE of those, I could ebay it, pay off my house, send my kids to college, pay for my mom’s nursing home, then retire early.


26 posted on 04/16/2018 12:57:46 PM PDT by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: Obadiah

Kabuki theater.


27 posted on 04/16/2018 1:06:26 PM PDT by McGruff (You are entitled to your own opinion just not your own facts.)
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To: COBOL2Java

He looks like a Russian Sommelier, minus his spit cup!


28 posted on 04/16/2018 1:13:49 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Obadiah

Not to mention, putting in harms way $400,000,000 a piece B1-B Lancer bombers, and $2 billion a pop submarines. But it’s all Monopoly money anyways.


29 posted on 04/16/2018 1:20:22 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Navy Patriot

Has anyone heard or read from which base the B-2’s sortied from for the mission?

Guam, Diego Garcia and I think Missouri have B-2 bases.

Any in Europe?


30 posted on 04/16/2018 1:31:40 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: rednesss

They were never in harm’s way...

It’s true they moved some of it to Russian bases, but now we know where it is.

The R & D facility is obliterated as well as most of the production means.


31 posted on 04/16/2018 1:32:14 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: rednesss

What’s the purpose of building them if we’re not going to use them?


32 posted on 04/16/2018 1:40:59 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: pierrem15
HARM missiles are air launched from piloted aircraft within the 92 mile maximum range, and take a minimum of three minutes 54 seconds to close on the radiating antenna.

The S-400 System has a maximum effective antiaircraft range of 250 miles, considerably longer observational range, multiple remote, mobile, selectable antenna arrays, multiple launch vehicles, some of which can launch while in motion, exchanges real time target data with other S-400 Systems, can make a targeting solution and weapons selection in twenty seconds and shares data with S-300 systems.

An attacking aircraft would be at extremely high risk before their weaponry would be in range.

A UAV is much slower with Hellfire's maximum range of five miles and interactive guidance to target.

Likely Trump and our Military's genius in this strike was to keep our aircraft well away from the S-400 and what it is protecting, Russians, not Assad.

33 posted on 04/16/2018 1:46:28 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: riverdawg

See post #33.


34 posted on 04/16/2018 1:49:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Rebelbase

I was told the B1s flew from Qatar, and the Tornados from Grecian Cyprus, but I did not follow up further.


35 posted on 04/16/2018 1:58:29 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Navy Patriot

You could argue it was a double bluff; before the strike, most of the speculation about sub-launched missiles focused on the USS Georgia, an Ohio-class boat converted into a cruise missile platform. The Georgia had been operating in the Med in late March and early April and many observers (me included) envisioned the Georgia as a primary strike platform (it carries over 160 Tomahawks). When the attack was launched, it was a Virginia-class boat (the John Warner) that launched six cruise missiles from beneath the waves.


36 posted on 04/16/2018 2:02:03 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Navy Patriot

My mistake: I thought we had some anti-radar cruise missiles that had a longer range.


37 posted on 04/16/2018 2:16:38 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: GreyHoundSailor

So we should just piss away $$billions of dollars just because every year?? Tax, tax, tax, spend, spend, spend. Seems like a democrats wet dream.


38 posted on 04/16/2018 2:24:18 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Navy Patriot

It’s telling that Syria/Russia apparently did not deploy the S-400 during the missile attack. At $200m per system, I don’t blame them.


39 posted on 04/16/2018 2:43:23 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Despot of the Delta

Yaghhh, that nasty witch Ellen Tauscher is on that board. I’d have thought someone would have spilled a bucket of water on her by now...


40 posted on 04/16/2018 2:43:50 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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