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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Upstate begins in Westchester. The air temperature changes at around that point. I’ve gone from LI to Valhalla many times and been surprised by the difference in temps.


66 posted on 04/10/2018 5:22:12 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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I live in the Hudson Valley and there are three often-argued lines that determine where upstate and downstate meet.

1.Poughkeepsie - the Eastern landing of the Mid-Hudson Bridge, and the end of the line for Metro-North, roughly 75 miles from midtown Manhattan

2. I-84 - About 15 miles south of Poughkeepsie. I would accept this answer 20 years ago, but Fishkill, Wappingers, the Town of Newburgh and other areas north of the highway have become increasingly suburban.

3. The 845-518 border - the northern communities of Dutchess County, across to Greene County (Ulster County in 100% 845) are all still fairly rural/exurb areas and are considerably different than their downstate counterparts.

Any of these answers works for me. I’ve slowly moved over the years from #1 to #2. A lot of people who live here use #2. As a matter of culture the answer (these days) is more like #3.


67 posted on 04/10/2018 6:25:08 AM PDT by mjustice (Apparently common sense isn't so common.)
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