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Water Slide Co-Designer Charged with Murder over Child Decapitated on Ride.
Breitbart ^ | April 3,2018 | by NATE CHURCH

Posted on 04/03/2018 5:46:51 PM PDT by Hojczyk

72-year-old John Schooley has been charged with second-degree murder in the tragic death of a child on the water slide he co-designed. Schooley was arrested at the Dallas Fort Worth International Airport on Monday, just after returning from China. In addition to murder, Schooley also faces charges of aggravated battery and aggravated endangerment of a child.

A Kansas grand jury has indicted all three men involved in the incident that resulted in the decapitation of Caleb Schwab, son of Kansas State Representative Scott Schwab. The boy’s raft lost control on the 17-foot slide, and he was killed as he hit an overhead loop at high speed.

Charged along with Schooley are co-owner Jeffrey Henry and the private construction company of the park, Henry & Sons Construction Co. Both have been charged with reckless second-degree murder as well as 17 other felonies related to other incidents on the “Varruckt” slide.

But it was Schooley himself who signed off on the ride, claiming it met all of the required American Society for Testing and Materials standards for use. Even then, he allegedly said that “if we actually knew how to do this, and it could be done that easily, it wouldn’t be that spectacular.”

“Not a single engineer was directly involved in Verruckt’s dynamic engineering or slide path design,” according to the indictments. Those same indictments also claim that Henry rushed production of the slide in order to impress executives involved with a Travel Channel television program.

Thus far, the Schwab family has reached a $20 million settlement with the Schlitterbahn water park and companies associated with the slide’s production.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: amusementparks; localnews; waterslide
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

None of this hit the news till the lad died? How does one suppress that? Payola?

Nobody wants a razor blade hidden in a swing set, but when something looks gnarly dangerous... Maybe it is.


121 posted on 04/03/2018 7:49:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: TexasGator

You stopped bolding too soon.


122 posted on 04/03/2018 7:50:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

“What disturbs about this case is unqualified people designing it, and then deliberately hiding a record of 13+ injuries the first six months of operation and refusing to do anything about it. Makes you wonder about all these parks.”

Well .... they put up the cage to keep people from flying off the ride .... just neglected to think what would happen to one that would hit the cage frame at high speed ....


123 posted on 04/03/2018 7:51:36 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

Dunno.

People have died on Disneyland roller coasters, and I don’t recall murder charges being filed.


124 posted on 04/03/2018 7:55:53 PM PDT by chris37 (I love my German Shepherd girls!)
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To: 1L; HiTech RedNeck; Mariner
There are two kinds of intent, specific and general. Specific intent mean that the defendant intended to cause the death and, if proven, would result in a first degree murder charge. General intent means that the person did not intend to cause the death, but acted in such blatant regard for human life that loss of life was likely. This could result in a second degree murder charge or manslaughter charge depending on the circumstances.

I am sure no one arguing in this thread that second degree murder is not an appropriate charge is actually a lawyer. (I am a lawyer.)

Here is a link to a good discussion of the issue:

Murder in the Second Degree

125 posted on 04/03/2018 7:56:20 PM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: TexasGator

Well well well. The consequences of the intended safety measure could have been worse than not having it. People think cage equals safety. Maybe NO CAGE would get people to think twice or at least obey the ride rules.

How do we get around “reckless” people?

Also how did the lad chance to fly off the slide? Did something abnormal happen?

I feel for the lad’s family. RIP to the lad. But when a less than zero danger exists, what right do people have to choose it?


126 posted on 04/03/2018 7:58:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Mariner

Google “second degree murder drunk driving” and you will find plenty of information.


127 posted on 04/03/2018 7:59:48 PM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: KevinB

And again the weasel words, the free floating qualitative words.

Here’s maybe where the defense could bring experts to vouch for psychological and consequent health benefit to those who didn’t die. It’s not like this is some neutral entity like an escalator.

“First, let’s kill all the lawyers.”—Shakespeare


128 posted on 04/03/2018 8:03:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: chris37
Do they even charge drunk drivers with this crime? I’m not sure I’ve heard of this charge before.

Yes, second degree murder charges for drunk driving related deaths are routine. Search "Second degree murder drunk driving" and you will find plenty of information.

129 posted on 04/03/2018 8:03:39 PM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: piasa

Yeah, civil wrongful death, sure. Maybe unintentional manslaughter, or reckless endangerment if there was actual recklessness, which I can’t tell from a quick read of the article.


130 posted on 04/03/2018 8:05:15 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: KevinB; TexasGator

From Kevin B’s link:

“When an individual commits an act of gross recklessness for which he must reasonably anticipate that death to another is likely to result, he exhibits that ‘wickedness of disposition; hardness of heart; cruelty; recklessness of consequences and a mind regardless of social duty’ which proved that there was at that time in him ‘that state or frame of mind termed malice’. “

Now, try to make the case that the designer of the slide, or the operator/owner for that matter, committed second degree murder.


131 posted on 04/03/2018 8:06:03 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: funfan

None of them are legislators kids.


132 posted on 04/03/2018 8:10:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: KevinB

But again cars aren’t chiefly a means of recreation. They are chiefly public transport. If I undergo a recreational activity that looks the obvious danger, I might be the stereotypical redneck, but nobody is charged with my murder if I die.


133 posted on 04/03/2018 8:11:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Still Thinking

And yet one would expect a bigger uproar there because this wasn’t a failure of obviously risky recreational facilities.


134 posted on 04/03/2018 8:13:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
How many car crashes? Motorcycle wrecks? A fatal injury kills. This is bloody shirt waving.

In all my years reading Freerepublic I don't think I've seen as much ignorance so confidently displayed by a poster in a thread as your postings in this thread. You really need to educate yourself before spouting off on subjects that you very obviously know nothing about.

135 posted on 04/03/2018 8:14:33 PM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: KevinB

“How many car crashes? Motorcycle wrecks? A fatal injury kills. This is bloody shirt waving” should have been quoted in my prior post.


136 posted on 04/03/2018 8:16:23 PM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for this Obama fellow.)
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To: Mariner

Alas, with the improvement of engineering capabilities, one is expected to always use them to the maximum. It’s like doctors being charged with wrongful death for things that were tolerable shortcomings decades ago. And so it is; but when does the near-perfect become the enemy of the good? Did nobody gain, other than the operators, from this flawed amusement? What good is something daredevil when it becomes dareteddybear?


137 posted on 04/03/2018 8:20:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: KevinB

Okay, well good, I do think that is the appropriate charge.


138 posted on 04/03/2018 8:22:54 PM PDT by chris37 (I love my German Shepherd girls!)
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To: Mariner

““When an individual commits an act of gross recklessness for which he must reasonably anticipate that death to another is likely to result,”

ROTFLMAO!

The dude is on record saying hat the slide would kill someone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


139 posted on 04/03/2018 8:23:43 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: chris37

The murder charge is idiotic. Manslaughter makes sense.


140 posted on 04/03/2018 8:24:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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