24 million could skip Census because of citizenship question: Report

The Washington Times ^ | March 30, 2018 | Stephen Dinan

[jazusamo]

The man who ran the 2000 census for the Clinton administration predicted Friday that more than 24 million people may refuse to take part in the 2020 count now that the survey is going to ask about citizenship status.

Robert Shapiro, who was under secretary at the Commerce Department during the 2000 count, called the decision to ask about citizenship “dangerous.”

He predicted 6.8 million illegal immigrants will duck the count altogether, as would about half of the 8.8 million legal residents who live in a household with an illegal immigrant present. The other half, he said, will likely lie and claim the illegal immigrants are citizens, further distorting the count.

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Mr. Shapiro said the losses could cost immigrant-heavy states such as California and Texas seats in Congress, while poor states that rely heavily on government assistance programs such as Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky and West Virginia would suffer the loss of funding.

[Liz]

Robert Shapiro, Commerce Under Secretary during the 2000 count, said that millions not answering the citizenship question could cost illegal-heavy states
such as California and Texas seats in Congress, while poor states, Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky and West Virginia would suffer the loss of funding.

Well, I'm brave enough to endure whatever outcome ensues.....as long as it means California loses seats.

[Norseman]

If you took the time to read the article, you’d understand the headline.

That said, maybe there really are far more than 11 million illegals. After all, even the Left is willing to admit that number. So maybe it’s far higher?

I doubt an illegal will fill out the form and if someone else is filling it out, they’ll just omit mention of the illegal in their household. Better that then saying he’s here legally and signing a form that states it’s illegal to knowingly include false information.

So if the count is 25 million below what’s expected, we’ll finally have a handle on how many are here illegally.

[Ted Grant]

Good.

[Norseman]

No, he didn’t admit that at all. Read the article.

[itsahoot]

Doesn't matter. No matter what you all do, you have your secret algorithm where you impute an under count and up the population via an estimate.

You might recall that the Clinton Crime family tried to move to statistical analysis until the court shut them down.

[stylin19a]

I was way wrong...thanks

[Norseman]

>>That’d take about 30 seats out of congress.<<

Not true. It would reallocate those thirty seats (assuming your number is correct...it’s probably really between one and three seats in play.)

But that’s a good argument for doing it. Why should states that harbor illegal aliens intentionally (CA?) gain representation in Congress (and an electoral vote as well) at the expense of another state?

[Norseman]

And, according to others, it was also a question included on the long form of the 2010 census that goes to randomly selected homes.

[Norseman]

>>Illegal invaders should not be counted as citizens or legal resident aliens.<<

According to the Constitution, they probably should be counted as being here, however.

But according to our laws, they shouldn’t be here in the first place.

So the Constitution says count them and the law says they don’t belong here. That causes a conflict. Maybe they should add the following option to the citizenship question: “I take the fifth amendment.”

[mrmeyer]

MAGA!

[BlueLancer]

Why should states that harbor illegal aliens intentionally (CA?) gain representation in Congress (and an electoral vote as well) at the expense of another state?

Maybe the Demoncrats would consider counting illegals as 3/5ths of a person ...

[Haiku Guy]

Only 24 Million?

We can do better than that.

We should make sure everybody knows that lying on a census form is a crime that can get you deported.

We should also make sure they know that census data regarding illegal status can be tracked back to the household and used for the purposes of immigration enforcement.

These facts should be widely known in the effected community...

[FrankR]

Run the census results against the welfare/food stamp/entitlement database...all names not on the census should be removed from all benefits. Obviously, they don’t live here, right? Therefore, not eligible for any benefits, right?

You can run, but you can’t hide.

[Bryanw92]

The Constitution is written for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

When 10% of your population are illegal invaders and forces you to count them as if they were supposed to be here, it becomes a suicide pact.

[AmusedBystander]

interesting the number used is 24 MM. That is the number of illegals estimated by anti-Open Borders groups.

This proves the number is probably much, much higher.

Only one form per address, There could be many others living at that address. So if 24MM refuse to answer, then takes represents around 72MM people.

[sparklite2]

Trump ... will he go down in history as sui generis, a blip on the radar? Or will all presidents, past and future, be measured against his effectiveness in office?

[sparklite2]

Poor gal was nearly in tears by the time she left

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Were you as swinish as your recollection of it?

[az_gila]

I’m OK with that. The Census routinely asked citizenship until 2010, when the 0bama administration abandoned that question. I’m sure they had a perfectly good reason for doing that.

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Two articles from back in Jan 2010 -

https://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/jan/11/no-question-birthplace-asked-census/

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2010/1/12/824455/-

And a failed attempt to change the 2010 census.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/10/census_bureau_knocks_sen_david.html

[rktman]

Well, I wasn’t “hogg” like in any case. ;-)

[sparklite2]

Heh