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Republican Reynolds Wins Special Election in Alabama
Twitter ^ | 3/27/18 | Scott Presler

Posted on 03/27/2018 6:50:45 PM PDT by T Ruth

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To: goldstategop

Doug Jones is the Scott Brown of Alabama. He will be crushed when he next runs.


41 posted on 03/27/2018 10:18:18 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: DiogenesLamp

Romney only got 10% more votes than did Moore, and as I said, there are a lot of people who don’t give a crap about down ballot candidates.


Roy Moore got 1,051,627 votes compared to Romney’s 1,255,925. That’s 19.42% more votes. The total votes cast for the presidency came to 2,074,338, vs 2,031,117 for the Chief Justice position, a 2% difference. Plenty of GOP voters cast votes for the judgeship. They just cast them for Moore’s opponent.
https://sos.alabama.gov/sites/default/files/voter-pdfs/2012/statecert-amended-general-12-17-2012.pdf

Note that I don’t dislike Moore, who’s a fairly standard-issue strait-laced southern GOP candidate. Moore’s an Eagle Scout compared to Trump, and a Vietnam War combat vet to boot. The problem with Moore is not that he’s a bad person - it’s that his political skills are lacking, and he’s unwilling* to learn any new ones. Trump’s always been a bit of a sleaze from the time I started following his antics back in the 80’s, but he’s a charismatic sleaze. Still, I’d pick Moore over Trump any day of the week. Thing is, Trump wins elections, whereas Moore barely wins even in GOP strongholds.

* Some of the things Moore and Saccone had in common were an unwillingness to take advice and a lack of energy, perhaps rooted in this mystical belief that God would personally come down from his perch to help them win. Moore actually stopped campaigning during the the final days leading up to the election. Whereas Trump seemingly went without sleep, with marathon campaign events right up to the day of the election.
https://www.vdare.com/articles/msm-triumphs-as-gop-establishment-sabotages-winnable-alabama-senate-race


42 posted on 03/27/2018 10:31:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: T Ruth

Good to have a win!


43 posted on 03/27/2018 10:40:19 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: NRx

Agreed. It was a fluke election.


44 posted on 03/27/2018 10:41:14 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: T Ruth

You can bet your rear that the Today Show will skip this story tomorrow.


45 posted on 03/27/2018 11:02:41 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: DiogenesLamp

If a Senate seat is a “down ballot candidate only one isn’t.


46 posted on 03/27/2018 11:37:29 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Bonemaker

Yeh. Because klansmen chased them back home with portable burning crosses and AR 15s./s

BTW, is there still a blue wave?


47 posted on 03/28/2018 4:09:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: T Ruth

The Dems are destroying any momentum they might of had with this hysteric Anti Gun Jihad. it a loser everywhere except dark blue districts.


48 posted on 03/28/2018 4:54:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Bonemaker
Blacks must have stayed home.

In Mississippi.

49 posted on 03/28/2018 5:28:31 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Apparently I voted demoncrat for 40 years. They all wore 'R' jerseys! 'R'atpublicans!)
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To: NRx

Don’t be surprised if Jones decides to switch his Party Affiliation to Republican in the next year. He’s smart enough to know he is toast in Alabama in 2020 if he stays a Democrat.


50 posted on 03/28/2018 6:23:17 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

He will have to change more than his party affiliation. The man is pro-abortion and a gun grabber.


51 posted on 03/28/2018 6:28:43 AM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: NRx

Watch him do a 180 on those issues in the next 12+ months.


52 posted on 03/28/2018 6:43:39 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Zhang Fei
Roy Moore got 1,051,627 votes compared to Romney’s 1,255,925. That’s 19.42% more votes. The total votes cast for the presidency came to 2,074,338, vs 2,031,117 for the Chief Justice position, a 2% difference. Plenty of GOP voters cast votes for the judgeship. They just cast them for Moore’s opponent.

You are trying to spin this. There was a total of 2031117 votes cast for the Chief Justice position, Moore got 51.77% of the total, which doesn't put him 19% behind Romney, it puts him at 10% behind Romney in terms of the percentage of the population that cared enough about the Chief Justice position to bother voting for it.

A man who gets greater than 50% of the vote for a position is a good candidate in most elections. The vast majority of all races usually hover around the 50% mark, and blowouts with a 20% lead or more are unusual, and indicate a strong preference for one over the other.

The very next down ballot state wide election (President of the Public Services Commission) featured Twinkle Cavanaugh (R) against Lucy Baxley (D), and Cavanaugh got 1078108 votes, to Baxley's 909323, giving him a win with 54.1% of the vote, or only 3% ahead of Moore.

You can get this Data Here.

Thing is, Trump wins elections, whereas Moore barely wins even in GOP strongholds.

That religious stuff just pisses off the moderates, and they end up hating him. I think that drove much of the venom directed at Moore from his own side. These people are always looking for a Christian hypocrite, and they will seize with glee upon any bit of evidence that feeds their confirmation bias.

Moore actually stopped campaigning during the the final days leading up to the election.

Yes he did, but that had no real bearing on the result. He was advised not to do any further campaigning because there were agent provocateurs attempting to stage incidents to embarrass him and make bad publicity media events out of any campaign appearances, and of course by this time, who in the state did not know of Moore, what he believed, and so forth?

More campaign appearances would have not convinced those people who had been deliberately steered into believing he was a child molesting rapist to believe anything else. Prominent officials of his own party were behaving as if Moore had been proven guilty and they were deliberately promoting the Democrat candidate against him.

The power of the media stampeded our side into a witch hunt mentality, and they convicted him in the court of public opinion on mere accusations that don't even hold up to moderate scrutiny.

What happened to Moore was an outrage, and all involved ought to suffer repercussions for their participation in the lynch mob that got him.

53 posted on 03/28/2018 7:35:40 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: arrogantsob
If a Senate seat is a “down ballot candidate only one isn’t.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

54 posted on 03/28/2018 7:46:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

A “down river” place on the ballot sounds insignificant which a Senate seat clearly is not.


55 posted on 03/28/2018 8:35:34 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: T Ruth

Alabama State numbers
R 70–33 State House
R 26–7, 1 I State Senate


56 posted on 03/28/2018 8:50:14 AM PDT by deport
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To: DiogenesLamp

Your #24 is spot on. Well said.


57 posted on 03/28/2018 9:41:11 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: arrogantsob
A “down river” place on the ballot sounds insignificant which a Senate seat clearly is not.

The election of 2012 regarding Moore was about Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. It was a Judicial election, and if it is like the Judicial elections in my state, nobody really cares about it.

They go to the polls to vote for the Presidency, and if there are any other candidates on the ballot, they will often vote for them, but many will not bother.

A Judicial race in 2012 is mostly a ho-hum affair.

My point was that Moore was a perfectly acceptable candidate for the state of Alabama in 2012, so people who claim he was a "bad candidate" in 2017, are simply projecting their preferences rather than looking at the issue objectively.

58 posted on 03/28/2018 10:43:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: T Ruth
Your #24 is spot on. Well said.

Thank you. I endeavor to state the truth I see as clearly as possible, and sometimes I manage it.

59 posted on 03/28/2018 10:45:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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