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Police in Stephon Clark Shooting Were Justified in Using Force
PJ Media ^ | 03/27/2018 | Jack Dunphy

Posted on 03/27/2018 9:34:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/27/2018 9:34:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Now, now. That’s racis’. Just because it’s pitch dark, the “victim” appears to be trying to elude the ‘popo’, has something in his hand and is non compliant is no reason to shoot him 20 times. Al (not so)sharpton will be in town to set y’all straight. Looting in 3.....2...... If you weren’t on scene, don’t be telling the “truth” about what happened.


2 posted on 03/27/2018 9:41:36 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, but if a regular citizen in Sacramento had shot an unarmed person who was fleeing from them ten times for holding a cell phone they’d go to prison. Period.

But it’s okay for the cops to do it.


3 posted on 03/27/2018 9:43:12 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>It is true that he did not have a gun, but it is also true that the officers believed he did at the time they fired.

Is that the acceptable standard for a citizen who kills a person in “self-defense”?


4 posted on 03/27/2018 9:43:14 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A victim of circumstance.


5 posted on 03/27/2018 9:44:03 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MeganC

“But it’s okay for the cops to do it.”

The difference is the police are required to confront and apprehend.

And while not OK, it’s certainly within legal bounds.

Watch the video and I’d bet you too would pull the trigger.


6 posted on 03/27/2018 9:47:53 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe we should have High School classes, maybe a gym exercise. Someone shouts, raise your hands, show be your hands - then have the class raise their hands over their heads. For some reason many kids don't know that when a police officer says to stop and raise your hands, you need to stop and raise your hands. Also, maybe we need to focus again on family..... his grandmother’s house, where Clark himself lived. A Father and Mother in the house with their kids.
7 posted on 03/27/2018 9:48:16 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SeekAndFind

And yet the killings of blacks by blacks in chicago and other democrat metropolis continue with zero protest from sharpton and company.


8 posted on 03/27/2018 9:50:47 AM PDT by chief lee runamok
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To: SeekAndFind

The blacks are always ready to yell “No justice no peace” when the police shoot a black perp but black on black crime and especially black on white crime is somehow justified or ignored.


9 posted on 03/27/2018 10:03:06 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: rktman

20 rounds....yikes

Send the cops to the range.

Then send them to the optometrist for a vision check so they can distinguish a cell phone from a firearm.


10 posted on 03/27/2018 10:11:30 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: Bryanw92

>>It is true that he did not have a gun, but it is also true that the officers believed he did at the time they fired.

Is that the acceptable standard for a citizen who kills a person in “self-defense”?>>

Well, yes, actually it IS! If you can show that you had a reasonable fear of bodily harm, you ARE allowed to use deadly force to protect yourself! I wish every commenter on these kinds of posts would go through a “Shoot-Don’t Shoot” drill and see for themselves how hard it is to make a split second decision when their life is on the line.

The cops would like to go home to their family at the end of their shift. The reason that people call 911 is to ask an officer to deal with a situation that is beyond the average citizen’s ability to handle. It is not helpful when armchair quarterbacks with 20/20 hindsight pronounce judgments on an officer’s split-second reaction to a situation they have had hours to evaluate!


11 posted on 03/27/2018 10:11:32 AM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know Who holds the future!)
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To: MeganC

This is not ad hom: you’re a moron.

You know nothing about this incident.


12 posted on 03/27/2018 10:12:24 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: antidemoncrat

The best way to avoid being shot by police is to avoid confrontations with the police. And if confronted, obey all orders immediately and explicitly. The former is much preferred to the latter and is the only way to guarantee not being shot.


13 posted on 03/27/2018 10:16:40 AM PDT by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Was he just out for a stroll and planning on going to “coll-eshz” ?


14 posted on 03/27/2018 10:19:13 AM PDT by LYDIAONTARIO
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To: MeganC

The unarmed person here knew he was being pursued by identified police officers and was trying to elude them causing suspicion about his intentions. He also had something in his hands that could be easily mistaken for a gun in the heat of the moment. A mistake, yes, but that’s what made it justifiable, my FRiend.


15 posted on 03/27/2018 10:22:12 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SeekAndFind
At the risk of boring you, gentle reader, I find it necessary to revisit, for the third time in a week, the 1989 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Graham v. Connor, which defined how all courts (and everyone else) should evaluate a police officer’s use of force.

Wrong case, since in Graham the use of force was not deadly force. What Dunphy wants to quote is Tennessee v. Garner which ruled that police officers were not justified in using deadly force unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." That was not the case here. The suspect was unarmed. He had not made any threatening moves towards the officers or anyone else. He should not have been shot.

16 posted on 03/27/2018 10:24:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: VikingMom
If you can show that you had a reasonable fear of bodily harm, you ARE allowed to use deadly force to protect yourself!

And what was the "reasonable fear of bodily harm" here? Getting beaten to death with a cell phone?

17 posted on 03/27/2018 10:26:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Mariner
The difference is the police are required to confront and apprehend.

That's what they are paid to do. Confront and apprehend. Not stop and shoot to death.

18 posted on 03/27/2018 10:28:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rktman
“truth” about what happened.

"truff" you raciss honky.

19 posted on 03/27/2018 10:32:16 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: Menehune56

If you had made that mistake you’d be going to prison.

That’s my point here.


20 posted on 03/27/2018 10:32:24 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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