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WSJ: Companies Have to Teach Workers Skills that They Didn’t Learn in College
Breitbart ^ | 3/27/2018

Posted on 03/27/2018 7:02:16 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: miss marmelstein

There are few reasons for students not to take the first 2 years of college at a community college.

Just make sure the credits will be transferable to the University.


61 posted on 03/27/2018 8:57:26 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Today’s kids cannot be trusted to turn off the garden hose, mow the lawn, weed the flower beds, water & feed the dog & cat in the household or to take out the garbage.

Small wonder that they cannot perform anything useful for an employer !!!


62 posted on 03/27/2018 8:57:31 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Mr.Unique; econjack
I third that. There is a long known reason why employers look at Veterans first, and it's not all about patriotism. They recognized the basic leadership, management, admin, team work, skills that E-6 and above have learned.

Then there are the countless occupational skills from basic electrician to nuclear technology. Combined the both, and the employer knows he has someone who will perform and probably advance. At the least they will have the discipline to do their job correctly. The US military has the best trade schools in the world.

Or at least they did. Starting to wonder why our Navy ships keep running into other ships and aground. I have my ideas. Still, the best of the best trained sailors are submariners. There is NO margin for error on submarines. Aside from their occupational specialty, all are cross-trained to have a basic understanding of all systems on their boat in case of emergency.

Of course an aircraft mechanic of any branch literally holds the life of a pilot in his hands. There are others equally important. Even the logistics types have to be proficient in getting supplies to ground grunts. Without them, the Army, Marines, Spec-Ops wouldn't have their materials for combat.

Sorta makes me wish we still had the draft. Yes, we used to get no loads, but they would wash out or not advance.

63 posted on 03/27/2018 8:58:22 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: Altura Ct.
We pay for public education. Public education can be as high as $20,000 per year per student and that money comes from us.

For $20,000 per year I could send my kid to the best private school and they would be prepared for college, any college.

And yet, for all that money we are paying to educate everyone's kids and we are not getting our bang back from our investment.

Somebody needs to grab the NEA and the Department of Education by the pits and force them to explain to us why employers are being forced to do the job we are paying the NEA and the D of E to do.

64 posted on 03/27/2018 9:02:47 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: TWhiteBear

I graduated high school 5-23-1957.

I already knew how to type-—file—and to run a calculator to add columns & to do other office work. While I had to ‘be trained’ in the particular details of any individual company, I already knew those skills.

In fact, in those days, large companies used to come out to the rural Wisconsin high schools & TEST who ever wished to be tested & they RECRUITED from those in school contacts. I was tested & recruited by Kroger for their Divisional office in Madison, Wis., and that became my first full time real job.

Now- since then, the ACLU & NAACP sued to force schools & companies to no longer be allowed to TEST students to find their IQ, skill ability or their natural direction for any particular job. Add affirmative action, and you have a mess.


65 posted on 03/27/2018 9:05:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: TWhiteBear

I graduated high school 5-23-1957.

I already knew how to type-—file—and to run a calculator to add columns & to do other office work. While I had to ‘be trained’ in the particular details of any individual company, I already knew those skills.

In fact, in those days, large companies used to come out to the rural Wisconsin high schools & TEST who ever wished to be tested & they RECRUITED from those in school contacts. I was tested & recruited by Kroger for their Divisional office in Madison, Wis., and that became my first full time real job.

Now- since then, the ACLU & NAACP sued to force schools & companies to no longer be allowed to TEST students to find their IQ, skill ability or their natural direction for any particular job. Add affirmative action, and you have a mess.


66 posted on 03/27/2018 9:06:11 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Lou L
I won't really disagree with your points, but I'd boil it down to two paths:

1) You could re-invent universities so that there is less Marxist indoctrination and so that an education is more affordable. At $60,000 a year for 4 years -- plus grad school in many cases -- it's hard to get a degree without substantial debt. So, how can we achieve a higher education system which is more focused on real education and more affordable? High Education is a Big Money Operation that does not want to change its approach.

2) You could shift society toward more on the job training so that companies are more willing to hire young people and take some responsibility for giving them skills to do the work.

I'll go with a Pareto Distribution and estimate that 80% of the people who go to college merely spend 4 years having fun and growing up and do not gain measurable job skills of any sort (English, Sociology, Anthropology, Gender Studies, History, Communications, etc.). The other 20% actually benefit from college. (I think that's generous.)

A lot of young people take on crippling debt for almost no benefit. It's sad.

67 posted on 03/27/2018 9:08:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I'm still somewhat onboard but very disappointed. Not so much "Winning" lately.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Try they need to learn a lot of them in HS. Hubby was Associate Prof, retired as Chair of the Electronic/Computer/Math department of local JR College in Memphis. All Memphis A/B Math students had to take REMEDIAL MATH CLASSES before they could take the other parts of the course. Foreign born didn’t have to. Over all scored better, and went on to higher degrees several as lawyers, doctors, etc.


68 posted on 03/27/2018 9:13:00 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Well, in all fairness to the commie lib diploma kids, they are kind of busy with marches, “protests” and spring break. Not a of time to study with all of that going on.


69 posted on 03/27/2018 9:13:27 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: Altura Ct.
3 Decades ago, one of our younger DNA carriers with a recent double engineer degree, labeled the other worthless degrees as:

Instant Unemployment Degrees or IUD's.

Thanks to the left wing snowflake masters controlling our liberal universities, their new IUD's are even more worthless in today's market.

70 posted on 03/27/2018 9:38:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Dems are having trouble with their MAMA campaign To (Make America Mexico Again) versus MAGA!)
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To: Altura Ct.

This is because our supposed education system is really an indoctrination system to bring down the USA. Thank you Democrats for our national education department.


71 posted on 03/27/2018 9:41:28 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Altura Ct.

I’ve seen many an MBA working at a sunglass hut, and not doing a good job.


72 posted on 03/27/2018 9:41:57 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Mr.Unique

My has a handful of friends who married non college grads who joined the Air Force. The guys had good careers and ended up with good degrees.

After their AF retirements, they were able to get good jobs with their AF Training and degrees earned while in the AF.

A couple of guys in their 70’s still do consulting gigs with former companies or competitors.


73 posted on 03/27/2018 9:49:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Dems are having trouble with their MAMA campaign To (Make America Mexico Again) versus MAGA!)
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To: PGR88

$50 an hour is better than most engineers are making.


74 posted on 03/27/2018 10:18:06 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Altura Ct.

That’s how it should be. You can teach somebody more and better in four years on the job than anything college can do in that time.


75 posted on 03/27/2018 12:35:56 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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