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To: Kazan

Yes, It could play out that way, but Trump is dead to his base as it stands now. My (hope)would be that Collins and Murkowski would ultimately vote for majority reconciliation on the rules, rather than become the focus of a shutdown. Murkowski is in trouble at home and might blink first, leaving Pence to break a tie.

“If” we get to a bicameral bill Reconciliation Committee, then it’s a new ball game, “if” the Republicans hold together on Defense and border wall spending. Trump lost a lot of political capital by signing this bill and that will restrict his negotiating effectiveness with GOP House Leadership and Demos. He now has nothing to lose when he agreed to a two-year budget deal. Apparently, Gen. Mattis got to Trump not to risk Defense funding by a veto and re-do.

This was a mistake. Our greatest threat is currently not from without, but from within by the Left’s success at corrupting our Constitution, culture and fundamental institutions. They are now poised to take back the House and all that implies. Even if the D’s clawed-back several billion out of Defence in House-Senate renegotiations they could not dare eliminate or deeply cut Defence.

Trump, to regain his base and the initiative, he must throw a Hail Mary now to hold the house and any chance at reelection. A Veto would have been easier, now he has nothing to lose. Time to go for it, and show his base he’s the man they voted for.

9hope)


462 posted on 03/24/2018 8:55:07 AM PDT by windhover (windhover I caught this morning mornings Minion, Kingdom of daylight's Dauphin.)
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To: windhover
Trump is dead to his base as it stands now.

Speak for yourself. If that is the case, the conservative movement as a whole as dumb as the Republican party. Stupid party, stupid movement.

It beyond moronic to throw the one person with power under the bus that has been advancing a conservative agenda.

Dems and liberals win because they are smarter. They allow their politicians to make a mistake every now and then as long as that politician is advancing their goals overall.

466 posted on 03/24/2018 10:29:39 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: windhover
Trump, to regain his base and the initiative, he must throw a Hail Mary now to hold the house and any chance at reelection

The Republican House members that voted for this are on their own. There is nothing Trump can do to save them.

Two and half years is eternity in politics. If the economy is doing well and Trump is governing as a conservative, no one will remember this bill.

467 posted on 03/24/2018 10:34:53 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: windhover

Oh ye of little faith.

President Trump is jumps ahead of the Swamp.

President Trump is nowhere near “dead to his base”.


474 posted on 03/24/2018 11:55:16 AM PDT by SoCalConserv
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