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So you have a quarrel with all of modern Western urban civilization.

There may actually be something to that. I don't think i'm the first to notice that very urbanized environments tend to push socialism and "mob rule", and put forth the morality of the lowest common denominator.

Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix -- they're all a part of the same culture and all have the same kind of people in them, and they're what you get in rich countries.

Did you ever wonder why? It is a question I have pondered for a very long time, and i've developed quite a few observations on the issue. Of course quite a few others have noticed the same things i've noticed, and they have written numerous articles on the topic.

Why is extremely wealthy San Fransisco so over the top lunatic liberal?

But you're just as mad at what New York (or "New York") was in 1950 or 1850 when they were very different from what they are now.

Last year I watched an NPR documentary about the coal mining industry and early Unionization. I found quite a few interesting nuggets mentioned in that broadcast, and it reinforced information that I had obtained from other sources. Basically New York set the price of coal. It was not a market based system. The Robber Barons then building the city's buildings decided the price would be such and such, and so that was the price.

The documentary went into quite a lot of detail about collusion between the governments (Fed and States) and the wealthy in protecting the interests of their operations, with government forces if need be.

It is no wonder they saw Teddy Roosevelt as somewhat of a shock after what he did. One of their own started disrupting their cozy little influence scheme, and they didn't like it.

I like to think of Trump as a modern day version of Teddy Roosevelt. He knows how Tammany Hall operates because he grew up fighting in that environment.

81 posted on 03/26/2018 3:07:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I don't think i'm the first to notice that very urbanized environments tend to push socialism and "mob rule", and put forth the morality of the lowest common denominator.

Thomas Jefferson thought that way. His alternative was no improvement.

It is a question I have pondered for a very long time, and i've developed quite a few observations on the issue.

Spare us.

Why is extremely wealthy San Fransisco so over the top lunatic liberal?

That's not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about successful businesspeople in cities like Atlanta or Charlotte or Houston. They don't hate their cities, and they don't hate the modern urban world.

82 posted on 03/26/2018 3:57:37 PM PDT by x
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To: DiogenesLamp; ProgressingAmerica
Basically New York set the price of coal. It was not a market based system. The Robber Barons then building the city's buildings decided the price would be such and such, and so that was the price.

That was the Pennsylvania anthracite mining companies. They set production quotas and prices for coal going into New York. Not the other way around.

It is no wonder they saw Teddy Roosevelt as somewhat of a shock after what he did. One of their own started disrupting their cozy little influence scheme, and they didn't like it.

I like to think of Trump as a modern day version of Teddy Roosevelt. He knows how Tammany Hall operates because he grew up fighting in that environment.

Teddy Roosevelt was a New Yorker (as is Donald Trump). Teddy was also the father of big government in America. Ask ProgressingAmerica.

83 posted on 03/26/2018 3:58:28 PM PDT by x
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