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To: FLT-bird
Madison did not say before or at the time publicly that a state’s ratification could not be accepted if it reserved the right to secede.

Madison did not say before or at any time publicly that a state's ratification was something to be accepted period. He said a conditional ratification was no ratification at all.

They didn’t propose secession. They discussed it and thought it their right. Some threatened to secede.

You really need to read up on the issues if you're going to make claims about them.

216 posted on 03/30/2018 12:21:12 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Madison did not say before or at any time publicly that a state’s ratification was something to be accepted period. He said a conditional ratification was no ratification at all.

Ah so if a conditional ratification was not ratification at all.....and 3 states expressly reserved the right to secede....and he did not claim that their ratifications were defective.....then it was entirely in keeping with the constitution for a state to have the power of unilateral secession.

Otherwise he would have objected and said their ratification was defective and conditional. Yet he did not do so. Ergo.....


You really need to read up on the issues if you’re going to make claims about them.

The Northern Federalists’ Hartford Convention declared in 1814 that a state had the right to secede in cases of “absolute necessity” (Alan Brinkley, Richard Current, Frank Freidel, and T. Harry Williams, American History: A Survey, Eighth Edition, New York: McGraw-Hill, Inc., 1991, p. 230).

You were saying?


225 posted on 03/30/2018 4:02:46 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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