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1 posted on 03/09/2018 11:09:13 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Oklahoma

The tariffs may never be collected and if so not for long.They are a useful negotiation tool.


2 posted on 03/09/2018 11:11:52 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Oklahoma

Is’t that the rag with the sixty year old guy in a leather jacket spokesman?


3 posted on 03/09/2018 11:12:21 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Oklahoma

Thanks for posting. Of course you hurt U.S. manufacturing by raising the price of a key raw material, steel. Many Freepers, instead of making a rational argument, will just sputter that you are a “free traitor”.


4 posted on 03/09/2018 11:12:41 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: Oklahoma

For anyone in Europe who wants to bitch about U.S. steel tariffs: http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/29/news/economy/steel-china-europe-dumping-tariffs/index.html


5 posted on 03/09/2018 11:13:14 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: Oklahoma

The one good reason outweighs the bad, as far as I can see: It will start a debate on what is fair and unfair in trade.


6 posted on 03/09/2018 11:14:56 AM PST by Ingtar
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Trumps steel tariffs are bad but Obama’s were apparently perfectly okay. Or, at any rate, I do not remember hearing so many people wailing about them.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-steel/china-to-support-steel-exports-as-u-s-imposes-hefty-tariffs-idUSKCN0Y82ER


7 posted on 03/09/2018 11:16:12 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: Oklahoma

It’s interesting that Democrats have convinced Republicans to follow their lead on tariffs. Tariffs are a tax.


9 posted on 03/09/2018 11:19:25 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Oklahoma

Get into a WAR then try and import the Steel you need.....


11 posted on 03/09/2018 11:22:35 AM PST by heights
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To: Oklahoma

“Free Trade” is why the Republicans don’t win the Rust Belt and in turn the Presidency. Tell me another Republican who would have one the Rust Belt in 2016?


12 posted on 03/09/2018 11:24:55 AM PST by Sybeck1
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“The domestic steel industry is not vanishing—far from it. 70 percent of the steel bought for use in the United States is produced here in the USA. Also, American steel production hasn’t changed much over the past decades. In fact, since 2010 it’s actually increased.”

Yeah, so why are so many steel mills here gone?


14 posted on 03/09/2018 11:30:20 AM PST by vette6387
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The neocon globalists hate tariffs with a passion, they need to bring in stuff from their outsourced polluting and slave labor factories duty free.
This is why they don’t care that others have tariffs against us.

They flip the finger to Reagan who used them very effectively, and to the founders who financed the entire nation with them till the civil war. Weird to see the GOP closely aligned with the thinking of Woodrow Wilson.

The bottom line, as a continent sized nation, the USA could exist alone as a very successful economy. Trade should only enhance our well-being, but not be used to destroy industries and the entire middle class.


16 posted on 03/09/2018 11:38:26 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Here’s the key...steel and alumininum must be mfg in the US. Having key strategic components controlled even by our allies is a huge mistake


18 posted on 03/09/2018 11:39:54 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Oklahoma

Am I the only one, aside from President Trump, that sees the necessity of domestic production of steel and aluminum?

China sells us steel. China takes Taiwan. Any reaction by the US is met with an embargo of steel and aluminum.

This is about more than trade.


19 posted on 03/09/2018 11:42:11 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Oklahoma

A couple arguments/considerations:

Name any two countries who have ever had “Free Trade.”

If tariffs are bad and he lowest cost goods from abroad is good, then can’t government most help the US by subsidizing or mandating the purchase of only the lowest cost goods from abroad?

Penalizing reportable income is a far worse sin than penalizing foreign goods.


20 posted on 03/09/2018 11:42:16 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Oklahoma

I think Reason’s analysis is mostly not all that welcome on FR. It seems most here are on the side of tariffs.


24 posted on 03/09/2018 11:58:07 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Oklahoma
We also have the option to import steel with zero threat to our country.

Seventy years or so ago I learned about single source from the Saturday afternoon westerns.

The rancher waters his cattle from the stream that runs through his land until the evil rancher to his North decides to dam up the stream.

Any country that can not produce their defense weapons, in house, is at the mercy of the people they buy from.

29 posted on 03/09/2018 12:15:29 PM PST by itsahoot (There will be division, as long as there is money to be divided.)
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You could make scary arguments not to ever drink water.


42 posted on 03/09/2018 1:04:28 PM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: Oklahoma
We also have the option to import steel with zero threat to our country.

Because imports are never disrupted in time of war.

You can't start with a premise more asinine than that one,

51 posted on 03/09/2018 1:53:04 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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