Posted on 03/08/2018 9:17:43 AM PST by Academiadotorg
The Joint American Consortium for Keeping Wholesome Academic Degrees, JACKWAD, has ruled that because of the word ‘masters’ being associated with slavery, the Masters Degree will henceforth be referred to as Bachelor Number Two.
STEM bump for later....
That is the key question.
Honestly, it distorts the cultural norms in the STEM workplace. You might be a plain-old-American, but you still might find you need to wear your Bangalore hat on the job.
Seems this article reduces the job prospects for PhD’s to “tenure track professors”. I’d call that a false premise. Myself, I never even considered that career choice. I’m very glad to be working outside the university world.
Well, not to beat this poor horse too raw, but your take on the phrase is correct only if there is only one mentor ‘for all the PhDs in science. If there are multiple students and multiple mentors out there, then we would need to say “...a hard time getting JOBS like their mentors’.”
Sorry; I don’t mean to be like that. I should’ve just left it alone.
Not just importing STEM graduates. We are giving student visas to Indians and Chinese to come here and study STEM, at which point they would get an H1B at graduation, or do research work at universities as low-paid help. All of which cripples our native STEM pool.
Thats my sense too.
There is undoubtedly some crossover.
Corporations and universities like foreign labor, even educated foreign labor, because its cheaper.
In Engineering, a Masters will get you well over 100k starting pay. In real Engineering, not Industrial or Civil.
But PhD’s are looked upon as non-productive. They never actually finish much. Large companies might have 1 for every 500 people, and stick them in a lab. They write decent reports, suitable for, say, backup for FDA reporting requirements. But utterly worthless in new product development, where dates must be met.
They have a love/hate relationship with labor that has a thick accent. Eventually, IT management gets tired of the heat from other departments and goes back to domestic workers. Clients of outsourced IT get tired of hearing “I can’t get you an answer until tomorrow”. The lack of communication is very frustrating.
BS. It is hard to find them to work at below market rates like H-1b's.
Frank? The real Frank, or a mysterious substitute?
Sadly they use mandatory environmental courses now to brainwash STEM students. Back in my day when I got my BSME there was no such thing and we were very insulated to anti-American college liberalism and the eviro-wacko movement. I’m afraid that is no longer true. Engineers graduate these days with words like “ecofriendly”, “footprint”, and “sustainability” as part of their lexicon, i.e. Kool-Aid drinkers.
It used to be cheaper to have foreign post-docs in university-based research, but for years now it has been mandated that they make the same as US graduates. It is no cheaper to have ‘foreign’ PhDs in university settings. Plus, once you put in place foreign PhDs, they recruit from their country of origin, and it becomes a self-perpetuating process.
ROFL!
The only PhDs I worked with included a window dressing PhD hired to make the multinational corporation’s enviro image look serious. He was wildly overqualified for the work he was doing.
The other I knew pretty well. He was a tech rep for Eastman Kodak, and after knowing him for years, he confided that he held a doctorate, but didn’t want it known. I guess he thought the lab owners would be put off by it, but that’s just a guess.
Interesting Insight.
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