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Larry Kudlow: Trump's tariffs a 'bad omen' and could cause 'major calamity'
CNBC ^ | March 1 2018 | Michelle Fox

Posted on 03/03/2018 9:13:14 PM PST by WilliamIII

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To: heights

“We make virtually no Iron in America. “

The US is the third steel producer in the world, behind China and Japan. This is an roof-high productivity industry, requiring lots of capital, energy and minerals and where labor cost is minor, much like plastic primaries.
So the US should be the leader and the fact it isn’t is evidence that trade accords were screwed up in favor of China.

Trump’s tariff may be good or bad overall, NOBODY knows (too many factors and secondary feedback loops are involved). The so-called experts who pretend to know and even more that would be armageddon have no credibility whatsoever.

The only thing we know for sure the current deal is a major injustice to the US and the USA’s workers (no surprise, it was made by and for treatorous Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama) and must be redressed.


21 posted on 03/04/2018 12:12:22 AM PST by miniTAX (au)
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To: WilliamIII

Or not.


22 posted on 03/04/2018 12:16:01 AM PST by DAC21
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To: SSS Two

*****A large part of the economic revitalization over the past year is due to the removal of excessive economic regulation and the reduction of taxes*****(on Americans)

President Trump increase taxes and embrace regulation(on Foreigners)

Don’t be a lying shill on Free Republic.


23 posted on 03/04/2018 12:17:19 AM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: miniTAX

Steel and Aluminum production requires a lot of energy. Given falling domestic energy prices it seems like it might get less expensive to make them here. Could that encourage foreign investors to invest in building steel and aluminum plants in America?


24 posted on 03/04/2018 12:19:53 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: clearcarbon

“Could that encourage foreign investors to invest in building steel and aluminum plants in America?”


The US steel industry is a nice place to invest... after crazy regulations and unions are scrapped.


25 posted on 03/04/2018 12:25:35 AM PST by miniTAX (au)
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To: ground_fog

I dont really believe there will be retaliation. The world is intoxicated with your spending. Also many people in other countries would love to have their most important industries protected from dumping and countries who prop up their poor agricultural practices etc. Its the globalists that are not happy. I say good job Trump


26 posted on 03/04/2018 12:32:17 AM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: WilliamIII

Now if Obama had mentioned Tariffs...


27 posted on 03/04/2018 12:54:06 AM PST by CptnObvious (uestion her now.)
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To: miniTAX

Was Obama’s damaging “Cash for Clunkers” actually to reclaim steel?


28 posted on 03/04/2018 1:56:33 AM PST by Does so (Borders...Language...Culture)
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To: melsec
It's the globalists that are not happy. I say good job Trump

If anyone should know the value of tariffs, it'd be a businessman like Trump!

I'd suggest having the tariffs "sunset" in 2020. ;)

29 posted on 03/04/2018 2:00:17 AM PST by Does so (Borders...Language...Culture)
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To: WilliamIII

I didnt check. Did thid guy say the same thing when Obama pdid the same thing?

Just wondering?


30 posted on 03/04/2018 2:15:38 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: ground_fog

This is assuming that tariffs are a static thing. They are not, it is like pulling back a vest to reveal the concealed-carry sidearm beneath. This squelches the bad guys, and puts them on notice that the bearer WILL engage in an exchange until and unless things get toned down PDQ.

Tariffs, or the threat of tariffs, is a tool to be used in negotiations, but like the outbreak of war when diplomacy fails, may have far-reaching effects not easily discerned in advance of the decision to proceed. An international game of chicken, much like Mutually-Assured Destruction managed the standoff that was the Cold War.

We have a President who acts in making high bids and with a will to risk a lot on important deals. This is an important deal.

Much like watching an exciting, high-stakes game of poker.

Go big or go home.


31 posted on 03/04/2018 2:52:19 AM PST by alloysteel (There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots. There are no old, bold pilots.)
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To: WilliamIII

I wouldn’t worry about Kudlow. He is still on the Trump Train. The reason he is pushing some doom and gloom right now is timing, The market needs a healthy correction, we have not had much of a correction yet. 20% would be better right now. We need a base of strength to power through any Soros-created October surprises and the only way to do that right now is a correction.


32 posted on 03/04/2018 4:03:42 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: WilliamIII

So many that think the beloved Market should be able to dictate policy are concerned that Trump will “damage the economy” even as the Market tries to use itself as a cudgel....


33 posted on 03/04/2018 4:40:25 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: WilliamIII

Tarrifs are bad. Unless the other guy does it first. Then, you got to impose yours, or lose manufacturing. That happened. It’s been happening for 30 years. So Trump is fighting fire with fire. They started it.

‘Course, the COC is going bonkers. Oh well. They are anti American anyway.

Next up: NAFTA. China dumps steel and other stuff into the US through Mexico and Canada. That will stop when we end NAFTA.

‘Course, the COC...(rinse, repeat)


34 posted on 03/04/2018 5:02:35 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (SEDITION! Obama DOJ colluded to try overthrow the President!)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04
In recent weeks, these people say, Trump has been particularly high on Larry Kudlow, an outside economic adviser to the president and a former adviser to President Ronald Reagan. He helped lobby senators on the tax bill and was on hand at the White House on Wednesday for the South Lawn celebration after it passed.

Kudlow has been discussed internally as a potential successor to National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, who has announced no immediate plans to leave but has told friends he will be weighing his options over the holidays.

SOURCE

35 posted on 03/04/2018 5:33:03 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: WilliamIII

We cannot continue to be a nation that does not have the ability to create goods, and only be a consumer of them. When the SHTF, we would not have the resources necessary to respond as we did in both world wars. The calamity he speaks of would actually hurt the countries we acquire the majority of our steel & aluminum from, more than it would us.


36 posted on 03/04/2018 5:40:27 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: WilliamIII

As a small business owner, the last 20 years have taught me that I WANT to buy American. American supplies used to work and last. Since China took over every thing I’ve bought stuff that failed INSTANTANEOUSLY. Never happened before.


37 posted on 03/04/2018 5:49:12 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: miniTAX
Trump’s tariff may be good or bad overall, NOBODY knows

Taxes are always bad. Always.

38 posted on 03/04/2018 8:38:52 AM PST by SSS Two
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To: SSS Two

“Taxes are always bad. Always. “


Even the Heritage Foundation can find “good taxes”. So on this, your heart is right but your brain is wrong.

And tariff is not exactly taxes. It applies to foreigners and it’s a lever to force a cheating partner to play fair game.
I don’t think anybody can predict Trump’s tariff is bad. What makes me think it’s good is a whole bunch of talking heads who diss it are the same who predicted an economic disaster because of Trump.


39 posted on 03/04/2018 10:03:18 AM PST by miniTAX (au)
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To: miniTAX
Don't know what Heritage means with "good taxes", but all taxes create deadweight loss. Worth repeating, all taxes create deadweight loss. Some taxes create less deadweight loss than others. Perhaps that is what Heritage is saying. But the mere fact that a deadweight loss is created means all taxes are bad.

With respect to tariffs, they are indeed a tax. The "statutory incidence" (who the law says pays a tax) of a tariff may be on the foreign producer. But, like all taxes, tariffs create a deadweight loss to the economy. US producers and consumers will suffer the "economic incidence" (who is harmed economically from a tax) of a tariff.

Heritage understands economics. I'm sure the Heritage Foundation understand that Americans will share in the economic incidence of a tariff. I'm sure the Heritage Foundation therefore opposes a tariff.

40 posted on 03/04/2018 1:29:16 PM PST by SSS Two
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