To: Reno89519
No, just the only grown up in the room.
The American People are NOT going to accept the usual “do nothing” dogmas anymore. Both sides are going to have to accept SOME reasonable compromises or you are going to get something much worse pushed down your throats in the name of “doing something” when the voters turn the government over to the Dems out of disgust with the do nothings.
8 posted on
02/28/2018 1:51:48 PM PST by
MNJohnnie
("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
To: MNJohnnie
The American People are NOT going to accept the usual do nothing dogmas anymore. Both sides are going to have to accept SOME reasonable compromises
So, what are the "reasonable compromises" for an Inalienable God-Given right that "shall not be infringed?"
11 posted on
02/28/2018 1:56:28 PM PST by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: MNJohnnie
Reasonable compromise? Consider this, you have a constitutional right that varies from where you stand here in the U.S. Infringed is an understatement. Okay, consider further.
- You enter a gun free zone, most do not have armed people ready to take over from you being responsible. You are unarmed among other unarmed people...
- You go anywhere else, say unarmed...
- In both cases, someone else with a gun, machete, know, steel pipe, acid, whatever, who does care about the law, who is bent on maming or killing people.
- They start their rampage.
- Oh, dear, call the police.
- On average, 8-10 minutes later they show up.
- Do they intervene or standby and observe? A real question--not only has supreme court said they are not obligated to, but management might say wait one, or they might be cowards.
- And medical personal to help you, if you are still alive? Don't bet on it. We've seen more than once that they are kept out by police while people bleed to death.
- Eight to 10 minutes, by itself, is a very long time. Most people can unload a 30 round magazine in 20-25 seconds, reload and resume. A pistol, not much different. Either way, that is a lot of bullets.
- And what if the shooter has no plan to die? They stop at five minutes. Still an awful lot of shots fired. And they are 3-5 minutes down the road before the police even arrive.
- Unless someone has a death wish, we need our guns, need CCW, need National Reciprocity.
- And what else? Well, yes, tighten up NICS checks. Prosecute people that lie to try to buy guns. ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS!
- Ban guns altogether? Has that helped where attempted? Require 21 years? What about those in the military, what does that say about our trust in them? Or, for that matter any 18 year old's constitutional rights? Punish everyone for a few bad people? No. Somewhere in other settings that is a war crime.
18 posted on
02/28/2018 2:07:07 PM PST by
Reno89519
(Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
To: MNJohnnie
Both sides are going to have to accept SOME reasonable compromises...Compromising with bad policy is like adding sewage to your drinking water.
22 posted on
02/28/2018 2:10:42 PM PST by
JimRed
( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
To: MNJohnnie
Both sides are going to have to accept SOME reasonable compromises Disarming the law-abiding is not a "reasonable compromise". We already have thousands of gun laws, most of which the Fedgov cannot be bothered to actually enforce. Now you say we have to "reasonably compromise" to enact still more laws which won't make anyone safer. Are you going to "reasonably compromise" right up until the time they slap the shackles on you?
26 posted on
02/28/2018 2:19:35 PM PST by
Campion
(Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
To: MNJohnnie
“Both sides are going to have to accept SOME reasonable compromises....”
What compromises are the Rats going to give? If they want to take away 100% of the guns in private hands, but agree to take 50%, what have the Rats given up? NOTHING! But 50% of the guns in American hands are gone!
36 posted on
02/28/2018 2:42:54 PM PST by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
To: MNJohnnie
Who, exactly do you think these “American people” are?
We’re not behind do something even if it’s stupid.
41 posted on
02/28/2018 3:08:52 PM PST by
Hugh the Scot
("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
To: MNJohnnie
No, you don’t give them a damn thing. If he’s half the negotiator he thinks he is, you come back with “I’ll do the background checks, and raise the age to 21, but in the same bill we get CCW reciprocity nationally, and eliminate the NFA completely. Then you have a place to negotiate from. You don’t start negotiating by giving in to the other person as a starting point. Surely he knows that.
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