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Alleged school shooter’s mom paid $50K to adopt him from ‘drug addict’
NYPost ^ | February 27, 2018

Posted on 02/27/2018 3:17:47 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: kearnyirish2

Agree 100%. While being adopted can be complicated, in this situstion and Sandy Hook, where the shooter was not adopted, there was so much appallingly inept and stupid behavior by parents, guardians, and law enforcement, that the stigmatization of adopted people by many people is appalling. up


141 posted on 02/28/2018 5:57:21 AM PST by utahagen (but but)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes.

About traveling for a living.

I don’t miss the traveling, I do miss the people.

Independent businessmen are some of the best in the world. Family owned businesses are the top of that.


142 posted on 02/28/2018 5:59:07 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: papertyger

Well what other options are there? Kids live in a home with a family or in some type of institution. Is there an option I’m missing?


143 posted on 02/28/2018 6:11:51 AM PST by BeckyRoss
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To: Zhang Fei

Not for black and biracial kids.


144 posted on 02/28/2018 6:32:03 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

BTT


145 posted on 02/28/2018 7:20:22 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: ResponseAbility

So then, what do we do with the babies? Straight to the meat-grinder, I suppose? Or might they have some salable body parts?

Your comment assumes that the purpose of adoption is to meet the needs of the adults, and not of the children.


146 posted on 02/28/2018 7:40:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: ResponseAbility
Adoption is not virtue-signalling. Virtue-signal-flag background, that says in English, Spanish and Arabic, "No matter who you are or where you're from, we're glad that you're our neighbor."

By contrast, knowingly adopting a child with special needs and caring for that child, is virtue, itself.

147 posted on 02/28/2018 7:43:49 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: MilesVeritatis

The real tell/diagnosis would come from a brain scan. The brains of FAS children have holes in them where development failed to occur. It’s pretty sad.


148 posted on 02/28/2018 7:49:28 AM PST by shotgun
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To: ResponseAbility; lightman
Typo -- inadvertently deleted a line of type.

"Virtue-signaling is putting a COEXIST bumper sticker on your car, or, setting up on your front lawn a rainbow-flag-background sign that says in English, Spanish, and Arabic, "No matter who you are or where you're from, we're glad you're our neighbor."

Virtue-signaling is speaking-out on something that's already widely popular and solidly respectable in your particular circle. It's a form of cheap grace, unearned merit, un-paid-for moral credit.

In contrast to this, adoptive parents don't just speak out, they live it out. They live it daily and pay up personally.

That's not virtue-signaling. That's virtue.

149 posted on 02/28/2018 7:58:10 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: lastchance

I adopted a baby promptly from the birth mother’s womb, directly from the delivery room, straight from the box, and we didn’t pay the birth mother sh|t!

The mom was a druggy. My child is way better off.


150 posted on 02/28/2018 9:39:27 AM PST by T-Bone Texan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You get more of what you subsidize.


151 posted on 02/28/2018 9:48:34 AM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: ResponseAbility

The pregnant mom was already pregnant and drug/alcohol affected. She was in that condition before adoption was even broached. Adoption while providing for mom’s legitimate pregnancy-related expenses (which is standard), does not make pregnant moms do drugs and alcohol and produce FAS babies.


152 posted on 02/28/2018 11:33:30 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is God's desire that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." - 1 Tim 2:4)
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To: T-Bone Texan

I am sure your baby is much better off. I don’t know when you adopted your child but I do know compared to when I was adopted things have gotten more complicated. No one used to worry about terminating the parental rights of the birth father. Now failure to do so can mean a couple having to give up the baby they have adopted.

The birth mother should not be receiving money directly but the bills for maternal and even neonatal care are usually paid by the adopted parents. I think any legal fees are also handled by the adoptive parents. In some cases adoptive parents may agree to have the agency or lawyer handling the adoption help pay some living expenses for the birth mother. But that I believe is a private agreement.


153 posted on 02/28/2018 11:44:47 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I know a family that fostered than adopted eight children all with varying degrees of special needs. They did not do this as “virtue signaling” but because they loved those children. And most of all because they truly believed God had blessed them with the means and hearts to do so.


154 posted on 02/28/2018 11:48:45 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

These days the adoption agency or whoever facilitates the adoption has to either make sure the father has voluntarily legally abandoned the child or had his parental rights terminated. If the mother claims she does not know who the father is a diligent search must be done to learn his identity and have him give up his rights or start the process to have them terminated.

It may be she knew who the fathers were but choose not to name them to avoid the hassle of having the consent to the adoption. She probably also figured they would be very hard to find even with a diligent search.


155 posted on 02/28/2018 11:54:40 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: papertyger

Sadly more than a few parents who jumped on the adopt a Russian baby some years back found they were not prepared to deal with problems many of these children had. Nothing wrong with knowing your limits and doing what you can within them.


156 posted on 02/28/2018 11:56:59 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: BeckyRoss
Is there an option I’m missing?

Absolutely! Social services could make MUCH greater effort to match kids with target families appropriate to their particular risks. So far as I know, there is no actual effort on the part of social services beyond obtaining the prospective parents acceptance of the child.

That can’t be done under the current standards, so the status quo needs to change in favor of new families instead of abortion industry impediments.

157 posted on 02/28/2018 1:08:19 PM PST by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: lastchance

Our lawyer put up a notice in some arcane trade magazine (”Phoenix Welding Times” or similar) to prove due diligence of looking for the father.

I still get a laugh at that. The lawyer did not want to find the father, obviously.


158 posted on 02/28/2018 2:19:58 PM PST by T-Bone Texan
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To: T-Bone Texan

Smart man.


159 posted on 02/28/2018 2:41:56 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

Being born addicted to meth and crack is worse than alcohol. That brain was born fried.


160 posted on 02/28/2018 2:46:00 PM PST by Yaelle
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