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To: RegulatorCountry

“Attempts to make such behaviors acceptable to Christians by torturing scripture into meaning what it has never meant, all in the spirit of ‘inclusiveness’ and acceptance is therefore wrong.”

Agreed. I have an in-law who was ostracized from his natural family for this very thing. He has a relative who attends church, sings in the choir, and even admits that homosexual behavior is sin. Yet she attended a so-called gay wedding to show her tolerance and love. The ironic thing is that she also showed extreme intolerance and publicly criticized this in-law for his public stand against this “marriage.” She even accused him of being in a cult.

“The Biblical ‘reprobate mind’ represents the point of no return, they cannot repent because they cannot see that what they’re doing is wrong therefore they cannot be ashamed, i.e. they’re shameless.”

I have heard a number of other people state the same. While I do not find a very specific statement in the Bible that says as much, the examples in the Bible do seem to be consistent with that interpretation.

My position, which is merely an opinion, is that it may be possible for someone who is reprobate to be brought to repentance by God, but it is exceedingly rare. But I also do not have a problem with those who hold the view that it is, as you described it, the “point of no return.”

That being said, the Bible is very clear that some homosexuals have been brought to repentance and faith in Christ. We also have a Biblical example of a church-going man who was involved in incest. He was put out of the church of Corinth, but ultimately came to repentance and restoration.

And thus my point in this thread: there is a distinction in Romans 1 between those who are homosexual and those who have gone even further into depravity who are described as “reprobate.” There are certainly reprobate homosexuals, or those who identify as homosexual.

Yes, homosexuality is a grievous sin and abomination to God, but it is possible for homosexuals to receive forgiveness and eternal salvation in Christ if they repent of their sins (including but not limited to homosexual lusts and deeds) and trust in Christ.


27 posted on 03/01/2018 8:41:36 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

There are those who know that what they’re doing is wrong, whether that’s homosexual behavior or some other wrong behavior, i.e. sin. These individuals are capable of shame and regret, which leads to repentance. They have not passed that Biblical point of no return, the “reprobate mind” to which they’re given over. Others actively attack anyone who dares to criticize their behavior, not only do they not think it’s wrong, they think it’s something to be proud of. Reprobate mind.


28 posted on 03/01/2018 8:56:41 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: unlearner
Okay ... let's take a very good look at this situation.
It DEMONSTRATES "WHY" our Heavenly Father through His Son, commanded us to and "WHY" He commanded we WHY ?
So I say AGAIN, HOMOSEXUALS had to "EARN their REPROBATE MIND" by refusing God ~ not once, ~ not twice, ~ but THREE times!

You need to not only read, BUT STUDY this link
I especially agree with its last paragraph. There will be NO HOMOSEXUALS ( NOT ONE ) in the afterlife.
They WILL BE ASHES UNDER the soles of your feet ! ! !

And you end your comment with the following: Now lets go back to Isaiah 65: WHY ?

BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO OBEY GOD !
Read closer in Isaiah 65: But let's continue: Now let's go the look at the bigger view. Do you not remember reading: Have you not read in Luke 11 :
In closing, I'm telling you, for your own spirit's sake ...
30 posted on 03/01/2018 11:39:46 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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