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Satellite Imagery Confirms Russia Deployed Stealthy Su-57 Fighters To Syria
www.thedrive.com ^ | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 02/25/2018 11:04:54 AM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 02/25/2018 11:04:54 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

give stealth jets to the craziest, most screwed-up freaks in the galaxy- what could go wrong?


2 posted on 02/25/2018 11:07:52 AM PST by goldendelicious
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To: Red Badger

Well, they aren’t that stealthy - we found them on the ground. The Israelis are specialists at blowing up their rivals’ air forces while on the ground.

Pass the popcorn.


3 posted on 02/25/2018 11:10:45 AM PST by Bon mots
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If the Israelis blow them to smithereens, Russia can’t complain because they said they weren’t there in the first place...............


4 posted on 02/25/2018 11:12:30 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Bon mots
Now we'll have to wait and see how Russia publicizes the Su-57's presence in Syria and if they attempt to challenge airspace patrolled by American fighters, namely F-22 Raptors. And yes, this plot setup sounds exactly like it was ripped right out of a somewhat far-fetched military techno-thriller novel.

This is exactly the opening scenario for Alas, Babylon!..................

5 posted on 02/25/2018 11:14:18 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger; Alas Babylon!

Name him, ping him...


6 posted on 02/25/2018 11:16:00 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ping


7 posted on 02/25/2018 11:16:40 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: Red Badger
We got a good shot of the pilot, too:


8 posted on 02/25/2018 11:21:26 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: PLMerite

Must.... think..... in..... RUSSIAN!..............................


9 posted on 02/25/2018 11:22:36 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

Russia’s aid to the syrians, iranians and hezbollah must stop.
They obviously plan to encircle israel and overwhelm the defense systems.


10 posted on 02/25/2018 11:25:54 AM PST by bitt (We dont need an electric chair, we need electric bleachers.)
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To: Red Badger

one of my favorite novels.


11 posted on 02/25/2018 11:26:29 AM PST by bitt (We dont need an electric chair, we need electric bleachers.)
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To: Red Badger

F22 clones. Who gave the Russians the designs: the Clintons or Obama?


12 posted on 02/25/2018 11:29:56 AM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Red Badger; gandalftb
This is no secret:

The Su-57, which was formerly known as the T-50 and developed under the project name PAKFA (Perspektivnnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsyi: Prospective Aviation Complex for Frontal Aviation), has been under development for more than two decades and made its first flight in 2010. Last December Jane’s reported that 10 airframes had been delivered out of an initial batch of 12 jets, with the examples delivered so far being seen at flying test centres, including the Gromov Flight Research Institute at Zhukovskiy.

http://www.janes.com/article/78119/russian-su-57-fifth-gen-fighter-prototypes-touch-down-in-syria

The Russian Air Force doesn’t need the Sukhoi 57 to bomb more civilians in Syria. But it will look good on television screens back home
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-russia-s-stealth-fighters-in-syria-are-putin-s-election-gimmick-1.5847755

Even the Iranians are not impressed:
However, Russia does not plan to mass produce and export Su-57 until 2025 as the upgrading and testing process for the aircraft still continues.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/24/553479/Syria-Russia-warplane

But if T-50s are in Syria, it’ll be interesting to see how the Kremlin spins the deployment. Back in November 2017, Russian president Vladimir Putin ordered most of the Russian military contingent in Syria to withdraw, two years after Moscow intervened in the ongoing regional war.

Despite Putin’s order, two T-50s appeared in Syria along with a Russian air force A-50 radar plane, four Su-25 attack planes and four Su-35s fighters. The warplanes arrived in Syria following weeks of intensive air strikes by Russian planes targeting areas controlled by anti-regime rebels in Idlib and East Ghouta.

In other words, the T-50s’ deployment could be further proof that Putin’s withdrawal order was a lie.

In reportedly deploying T-50s, the Kremlin is outright gambling with precious prototypes and their pilots’ lives. It has sent into an active combat zone two supposedly “stealth” fighters that are anything but stealthy, that possess inadequate and incomplete sensors, incomplete fire-control systems and self-protection suites, no operational integrated avionics and are powered by unreliable engines. They have undertaken hardly any weapons-separation testing except for two types of free-fall dumb bombs and lack any other operational weapons bar their 30-millimeter internal cannons.

On the top of that, the aircraft are then going to be flown by pilots who lack any kind of doctrine or tactics for the type and who cannot really depend upon the planes’ avionics and other systems.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-su-57-deployment-syria-dangerous-farce-24613

13 posted on 02/25/2018 11:45:02 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Putin and his military obviously want to asses their toy in battleground conditions.

They tried that with ground forces a couple of weeks ago, using Russian mercenaries as cannon fodder and lost 400+ of them.

I assume they wish to see if these aircraft can stand up to our defenses.

He may be in for a surprise he doesn’t like..................


14 posted on 02/25/2018 11:48:13 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

They are just faking for the cameras.


15 posted on 02/25/2018 11:52:50 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: piytar

F22 clones.

Hardly - for a bunch of technical and some obvious reasons. Stealth is either exactly right or it just looks right. One you see on radar the other you don’t - the RC of the 57 is estimated to be 0.1, while the 22 comes in at an estimated 0.0005. Which would I see and which would I not .... I wonder ... there are at least 147 operational 22s at any one time, while there are only a total of a dozen 57s existing - all prototypes in one configuration of an other. And not to put too fine a point on it, but it does not look at present like the Kremlin can afford to build many more.

No clones here, just similar concepts dictated by necessity,


16 posted on 02/25/2018 11:54:01 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: AdmSmith

There was a story, last week(?), that the Russians actually used the ‘Hotline’ to ask if we were done shooting so they could round up their dead................Don’t know if it’s true, just it was out there...........


17 posted on 02/25/2018 11:56:11 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

Yes the Russian first said that they did not have any forces in the area when asked by the local US commander. Later during the counter attack the Russian tried to contact the Kurds to stop the fighting, but the Kurds said that they do not speak Russian.

More here https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3632066/posts?page=81#81


18 posted on 02/25/2018 12:05:34 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Red Badger

Realize the released image is just for civilian consumption. The one they use to determine it is crystal clear.


19 posted on 02/25/2018 12:51:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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It is probably why they are trying so hard to get the world off the “petrodollar”. Since they cant ramp up the value of their fiat currency, they want to disable our fiat currency.


20 posted on 02/25/2018 12:56:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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