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To: Portcall24

After reading the entire thread, while I appreciate your heartfelt concern for the loss of life, your all talking thru your butt. You have no idea what your talking about. First the shooter had a body vest on, second he was shooting with a RIFLE, never mind the brand, infinitely more accurate than a hand gun, by a factor of 10. The officer had a 9mm side arm, with effective range accurately of 10 yards or 30 feet. Just getting into range to fire with students scrambling and firing out of range could injure otherwise safe students as he was in classrooms on 2 of the 3 floors, and going up and down stairwells. So finding the shooter, getting to him, and finding cover while getting there would be difficult. If you have ever walked the halls of a 3 story school, you know the halls are very open with little cover. Now add that this guy is overweight, 54 years old and going against a teenager with good knees and hips with body armor, and you have no cover or back-up, with the wrong weapon, its a recipe for suicide.
A teacher with a .38 stands the same chance, and I notice nobody went in a fired a shot. So woulda, coulda, shoulda, is only for arm chair quarterbacks who shoot off their mouths but never have to put up or shut up. When his fellow broward sheriffs showed up, they also stayed outside, behind police cruisers...ever wonder why? Coral Gable officers went in and freed students in hiding 30 minutes after the shooting started. Condemn one, condemn all, but to say you know what you would have done is merely bravado, you were not there, you did not do anything, but unlike him, he, while behind cover, communicated with the sheriffs office, and gave what information he could, at close range, he could have taken out the shooter if he came out the west side of the school, in fact he exited from the 3rd floor down the east stairs and out of the school after dumping his vest and weapon on the third floor. Notice, no other police officer stopped him as he exited school grounds. Just sayin...


72 posted on 02/24/2018 10:14:33 AM PST by Rustybucket
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To: Rustybucket
"After reading the entire thread, while I appreciate your heartfelt concern for the loss of life, your all talking thru your butt. You have no idea what your talking about. First the shooter had a body vest on, second he was shooting with a RIFLE, never mind the brand, infinitely more accurate than a hand gun, by a factor of 10. The officer had a 9mm side arm, with effective range accurately of 10 yards or 30 feet..."

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They had no idea what he was wearing or what he was shooting because they were hiding outside.. But protecting those unarmed students was their duty which they failed miserably. SOP with an active shooter at a school is to engage immediately, even if to disrupt his plans or lend aid to the injured.

To engage was their duty. Instead they hid behind concrete and their cars out in the parking lot. Disgraceful as is your defense of their actions.

78 posted on 02/24/2018 10:35:05 AM PST by Sa-teef
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To: Rustybucket

Coral Springs officers who responded and actually took over are talking now and proving that the Broward Cowards are not worthy of apologetics

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/02/23/coral-springs-police-recall-response-high-school-shooting/


88 posted on 02/24/2018 10:58:06 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Rustybucket

I remember Sgt York in WWI killed something like 6 Kraut soldiers with his M1911 pistol and attacked 35 MG nests with a bolt-action Enfield. These were trained, combat experienced German soldiers - not a snot-nosed retard.

A man, not a coward, doesn’t hesitate for fear of his own life when children are being slaughtered right before his eyes. You have a pistol with at least 8 rounds, likely twice that. You close with the enemy and you kill him or die trying.

You are full of crap. Just sayin’.....


101 posted on 02/24/2018 11:58:28 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: Rustybucket
"So woulda, coulda, shoulda, is only for arm chair quarterbacks who shoot off their mouths but never have to put up or shut up."

Well, aren't you the expert? You ever faced fire? I have - and I can guarantee you that I would have gone in with whatever I had on me to try to save lives.

1. Since you're an expert, then you know that a pistol at close quarters can be aimed faster than a rifle. I doesn't make any difference how powerful a rifle is, if you get a killing shot in first. School rooms aren't really that big, are they? A 9mm may be only effective at 10 yards for you but the rest of us can effectively engage the enemy further than that.

2. Cover and concealment, baby. You move in bounds and when entering a room, stick the pistol and one eye only around the edge and enter at a height the shooter won't be expecting. The bottom line was the this gutless oaf was being paid to protect those kids and every second he wasted outside, more young lives were lost.

3. Ever notice that cops stopped risking their lives for "civilians"? Look at how the cops didn't do at Columbine - like save anyone or risk themselves at all. Frikken overweight black uniformed meter maids with machineguns.

Take it from a combat veteran Marine, we deserve better than that or fire them all.

105 posted on 02/24/2018 12:57:52 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Rustybucket

My aren’t you an opinionated SOB. How many years did you serve as a police officer? How many years did you serve in Vietnam? Maybe it’s time you shut the “F” up and sat down!


123 posted on 02/25/2018 7:39:33 AM PST by Portcall24
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