Posted on 02/23/2018 2:21:40 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
A person close to accused Florida shooter said she wanted ‘clear conscience’ if he ‘just starts shooting’
A person close to the teenager accused of killing 17 people at a Florida high school warned the FBI she was concerned he would “get into a school and just shoot the place up,” according to a transcript of her call with a bureau tip line operator more than a month before the massacre.
More recently, Mr. Cruz “switched it to he wants to kill people,” the unidentified woman told the operator in a somewhat rambling conversation.
“Something is gonna happen,” she said. “Because he’s, he doesn’t have the mental capacity. He can’t, he’s so outraged if someone talks to him about certain things.”
The transcript, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, provides chilling detail about the woman’s efforts on Jan. 5 to warn authorities about Nikolas Cruz’s propensity for violence and his troubled past. The caller’s identification was redacted from the transcript.
“You know, it’s just so much,” she said on the call. “I know he’s—he’s going to explode.” She said she was making the call because she wanted a “clear conscience if he takes off and, and just starts shooting places up.” [snip]
The FBI last week acknowledged receiving such a call, which it said was from a person close to Mr. Cruz. But the transcript, and the stark nature of the caller’s precise warnings about Mr. Cruz’s disturbing actions and volatile temperament, previously hasn’t been made public.
The caller began by saying Mr. Cruz had the mental capacity of a 12- or 14-year-old. She said he had started posting messages on his Instagram account that he wanted to kill himself and she’d alerted police to that threat, but wasn’t sure what happened in that investigation.
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A patsy for lack of better term. Guilty but a patsy.
Hey man, they were busy keeping us safe from DVD pirates and evil ranchers in Oregon.
Oh and pay no attention to how the 911 terrorists got in the country...
That’s the word, “Patsy.” Call a tip into the FBI, and you’ve given them a patsy to use when and how they see fit.
Find a nut. Rile him up. Make sure he’s armed then light the fuse. Or am I getting to far out there into Alex Jones territory?
A patsy like that has no one to snitch on. No loose ends.
Between Broward Sheriff Dept., Broward School Board, DOJ making them stop arresting kids and the FBI, this is a huge scandal. But nobody’s talking about it because the media have hijacked this thing into a Big Brother Two Minute Hate of the NRA and Republicans.
So True. Classic dont look there, look here...
You can bet if this was a black school BLM would be all over the Police / law enforcement angle.
The MIESKEITS in the press allow the COMMUNISTS and DOMESTIC ENEMY that are funding this anti gun propaganda to remain ANONYMOUS in order to INSULATE them from RETALIATION.
Time to tell these UN-AMERICAN SCUMBAGS THAT HAVE CREATED A SOCIETY THAT BREEDS MASS MURDERERS AND STYMIES ANY ATTEMPT TO INCARCERATE the mentally defective, that IN FACT WORKS ACTIVELY TO ENCOURAGE mental DEFECTIVES to ESCAPE scrutiny and institutionalization, to go to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!.
These mass murders are the DEMOCRATS FAULT, and the FINAL BATTLE has begun.
“Perhaps the caller recorded it and has boxed in the FBI.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if she recorded it. She was pretty clear that she needed to get the info out there to get the monkey off her back. I hope she did. Otherwise it would’ve been easy enough for the FBI to deny a call ever was made. They’d just call her a liar.
“Make sure he’s armed then light the fuse.”
I HAVE NO PROOF, but I wouldn’t be surprised if people like Hogg Boy were happy to help light that particular fuse. I’ve seen his type for decades. Smarmy and treacherous narcissists.
I feel your frustration, nay, I share it. Sometimes to the ALL CAPS STAGE!! But I feel pretty good right now, becuase I think those dopes are a minority, and are holding a losing hand. They look bigger than they are, because they hold the magnifying glass.
was the anon caller Roxanne?
I don’t think it was an anon caller. The name was redacted.
Yep, Trump could say, we’re done withe the Eff-Bee-Aye. They have Eff’ed up too many times. Dismantle and launch the Patriot Bureau of Investigation,
Too far, yes. If the suspicions of many are correct, his was destined to be a hell of a lot of trouble as he distilled in his mother’s womb.
They may have intentionally ignored him or been incompetent, but this nut didn’t need any further encouragement to act.
Nope, the bad guys have this down to an art. Probably already have a new one in sight for March.
I mention that because a casting call was out for the crisis actors for Texas around the 2nd. Some body posted that a few days ago.
Her testimony alone would have established probable cause to arrest this guy and search his premises. They could have put him on ice for couple of days and kept an eye on him to see if he was showing the severe signs of violent mental illness they kept hearing about. Gieven what everyone else who met him over the last two months has said, they could have filed for a civil commitment and restraining order regarding guns. Once they notified the Feds of just the filing of these documents and the return of the warrant this should prevent him from passing a background test. They could have also held the guns they got in the search until the civil mental health hearings had run their course. No school shooting. I’ve been practicing law over 30 years and that’s always how you dealt with violent nutcases - it’s even easier now with regard to righteously taking their guns because of all the new laws and regulations that didn’t exist in the old days. And this isn’t some novel smart procedure done only in Indianapolis, it’s how they did it and have always done it everywhere, it’s like Law enforcement 101. Any old time street cops on FR are invited to chime in here. With the incredible amount of specific directed threats, threat of firearms violence and reports of severe mental psychosis, Broward County Sheriffs Department, and the FBI, displayed incompetence on a truly breathtaking scale. If it was incompetence.
At IU med Center Wishard Hospital in Indianapolis in the 80’s we had a judge on the Psych ward each day. People were “arrested” by the police on a DOC? “charge” so they could be remanded to the hospital for disposition after being held for psych evaluation (instead of being thrown in jail). It worked reasonably well. However, apparently a police officer had his ex-wife arrested on that charge so as to harass her, leading to it eventually being thrown out...and so was the court closed. It spared many mentally disturbed individuals (including demented old grandmas and grandpas) from having to be thrown in with criminals.
Lessons to be learned as a concerned citizen with a tip:
1. Call the FBI, tell that that you are recording the call and will be forwarding the tape to your ‘legal team’, city, county, and state officials.
2. If you fear that a person(s) life is in danger, contact them immediately and more directly through their school or workplace. Tell them the same, that you are on the record, sharing with multiple authorities.
3. Employers and institutions do not want to be held liable and will act out of self preservation and from a stance of risk management.
More importantly, do we suspect that the bureau can’t possibly have been this incompetent and that they chose to ‘stand down’ and allow Cruz to make good on his umpteen promises to kill?
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