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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
We have gun control legislation, and it doesn't work well enough to prevent so many shootings. I'll be up front about it though. The last three major mass killings, were done with an AR-15 to the best of my knowledge. In the Texas one, the perp was also given chase by a gun owner using his AR-15, caused the perp to give it up and off himself. Of course, other rapid fire guns or even more deadly caliber hunting rifles are an option. So why this particular gun?

Maybe I would take it more seriously if they started getting serious with all the felon shooters who kill with guns or just go out with the resultant "shots fired" incidents which are hugely on the rise.

Everyone should ask themselves if it was their child who went off to school and went through something like this. If they got the horrible news theirs was killed, or badly wounded, who would they blame, and what would they do? Sue?

I guess you can't sue the gun manufacturer because some Sandy Hook parents tried that. And the refusal by that court I would probably support. Can you sue the FBI? They surely dropped the ball bigtime. How about the school not securing the premises adequately? Anybody else or would you not sue anybody (which may be a good option because that has heavy emotional consequences, too).

I'm not for arming teachers with possibly a very few exceptions. I don't see how they can do their job, carry a weapon whether openly or concealed, and not be easily distracted and be at risk for kids to attack them and take it from them. Unless they don't know.

Banning bump stocks would be a good start, but most mass killings haven't been accomplished with them. Only one I know of is Las Vegas. And I concede it probably made it more deadly.

Why can't we have a reasonable conversation about ALL the possibilities, reasonable or not? I will say the liberals are playing this one like they always seem to do which is infuriating, but sooner or later, it could be a winning issue for them. And I do not want them to win.

24 posted on 02/21/2018 3:40:40 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; All

Whom I see they CAN ‘go after’:

- Fedzilla for their ‘gun free zone’ (IIRC, even the hired ‘security’ couldn’t carry).
- State (for promoting and defending the same)
- Sheriff/local police for NOT doing anything the prior 38x
- School board for failing to alert the police
- Sheriff/local police + school + school/board for signing that ‘non-reporting to get the NUMBAHs lower’

Some one/entity denies ones ability to utilize their Rights (self-defense/carry), IMO, that entity then becomes liable for the security and repercussions of any failure thereof.

The WORSE offense, again IMO, is that ‘pact’. Willfully neglecting, ignoring and BREAKING the Law. Govt agents are no longer protected as ‘doing their job’; they should be personally liable as well.


52 posted on 02/21/2018 4:25:51 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Aliska

The school is the problem. That kid did not belong there.

He could have used a bucket of acid at a school assembly or a razor or knife or bomb or vehicle or whatever.

Schools have rules. States have laws to protect the public safety and private property. These were not enforced. They are the problem. they have a broken dysfunctional system.


53 posted on 02/21/2018 4:27:58 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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