Posted on 02/19/2018 10:12:10 AM PST by Red Badger
I had thought of that but then you would have a band of marauders running around with ink FORCING those they think not voting their way into the ink jar.
Of course Hollywood & ADA would have a kitten because someone with ‘no hand’ wouldn’t be allowed to vote ...
Remember even when local governments agreed to go to ‘YOUR’ home or nursing home and take your picture and give you an ID it was still racist to have to prove who or what you are while HRC, BO, GWB etal will have a BOOK SIGNING and you need a PICTURE, GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID to enter the STORE, much the signing area.(So I have been told, never had the misfortune to be in the same area)
Also find most any function other than MAYBE a soup kitchen where you don’t need an ID.
Best news I’ve had in a long time.
Canada counts the entire country on paper ballots.
You have your local polling place count them at a very local level and then aggregate the counts. It ain’t rocket science.
The election system in Israel is about as fool proof as it can get: Voter ID with a photo required, all ballots are paper, the marked ballots are placed in double envelopes and sealed and then counted three separate time by three separate groups of people. The outcome is announced and all ballots are kept in a secure area until those in the government agree to the election’s integrity. Challenges and recounts are rare.
>>>Optical scanning of paper ballots is the safest way to insure an honest election along with proof of citizenship.
That is what we have in Alabama, yet many folks on this forum are certain that there was massive vote fraud in the recent election.
In any system with proportional representation, those with minority views can still be represented and so have a greater stake in ensuring honest vote counts.
Paper ballots are fine but at some point, the totals get transmitted in some fashion to a state elections center.
Ir results are transmitted electronically, there is still the potential for electronic fraud.
Paper ballots also do not solve the problem of bags of ballots showing up from nowhere in a close race or a runoff.
Then there is the problem of absentee ballots and same-day provisional ballots.
This is why vote fraud investigation is so important. It provides the foundation for election reform.
That’s all well and good, but it assumes everyone wants a true and accurate count, not like Dem lifetime controlled places like Chicago, Philly, Seattle, New York, SF, LA.................
Optical scanning is vulnerable to hacking.
At least they can be examined after the fact. Should be available to both sides, as should the programming.
"Optical scanning of paper ballots is the safest way to insure an honest election along with proof of citizenship."
With all due respect concerning optical scanning WASCWatch, have you seen the following video?
Hacking Democracy - The Hack
The Dems DO NOT WANT ‘ELECTION REFORM’.
The Dems DO NOT WANT ‘IMMIGRATION REFORM’.
The Dems DO NOT WANT ‘SPENDING REFORM’.
The Dems DO NOT WANT ‘WELFARE REFORM’.
The Dems DO NOT WANT ‘___fill in the blank____ REFORM’.................
Yeah, if Jeh Johnson’s happy, we got a problem.
Don’t doubt that. This is a sudden twist to paper, trust them not.
Paper ballots, kept for 90 days.
Photo ID required for all.
Purple permanent ink thumbprint on ballot.
Harsh penalties for all vote inconsistencies.
Non-partisan precinct controllers.
First, the tabulation should occur in the precincts, which was once the standard, and why precincts were constrained to about a thousand voters. Voting and tabulating was observed and executed by volunteers of all parties present, with tabulations recorded and distributed with encryption and biological signatures to officials of all parties, the State AG, FBI and whomever is deemed necessary. The paper ballots are placed in bonded sealed containers, which;, as the Mexicans do, are transparent and in plane view as they are filled during the voting and sealed with signed identifiers from and resident in each precinct. These counts are the official counts unless there is a legal challenge. A count of all ballot containers from each precinct is stored in state and federal databases and sent to each party, encrypted.
Only France and Belgium among European states do not use paper ballots. Electronic counting invites corruption. Audit trails may be claimed, but hackers are far too sophisticated, with exploits that delete themselves after doing their job of selecting an election winner or eliminating one or several candidates. Government agencies required this writer to develop secure audit trail information for manufactured material before they would approve it trials, let alone for public sale.
Bags of ballots that have not been tabulated in precincts are extremely certainly suspect, given that bonded contains are counted before leaving and upon storage into guarded warehouses. If the container count/precinct does not correlate with the count as reported by the precinct the signators are alerted and the tally from the entire precinct is invalided pending investigation. That is the value of an audit trail. (This writer will not forget the trial of O.J. Simpson where two “criminalists” testified that each had signed about half the physical evidence containers but only evidence from one criminalist was offered as evidence. All physical evidence was invalided, correctly, regardless of how many were certain O.J. was guilty).
Absentee ballots will need special scrutiny. As with recent voting on Brexit and secession of Catalonia from Spain, physical presence of voters on the day of the election should be required. Citizenship checks are an obvious requirement, and absentee voters must have verification such as the new biological ID card now being offered in California.
No audit trail no vote! The U.S. may have the least verifiable voting system in the world, and is among a few that haven’t reverted to paper ballots. Who oversees vote tabulation in virtually every state in the U.S.? The SEIU, reporting to state attorney’s general, who were voted into office with lavish campaign funding from George Soros’ “Attorney General Project”. It is no secret that the AG Project collaborated with Acorn while Obama taught them how to be more effective political activists. SEIU tabulation center workers make it impossible, or difficult for observers to monitor their activities. What good would it do? Without paper there is no baseline. No audit trail.
He’s Old School, so of course he’s Happy!...............
I suppose I worry too much, I envision thugs with ink lying in wait for some innocent voter to walk by and "pre-stamp" his hand to keep him out of the polls...
Democrats already know how to cheat using paper ballots. Most of them struggle with using a computer.
Can’t cops be used to deliver the ballots? We also need to insure that the winning results are in a timely manner. I say seniors(retired) vote a day early-8 hours only. That would free up election day for working people. No other early voting.
In the UK, paper ballots are counted by non-political local officials in the presence of the candidates and the media. The local result is announced immediately by the non-political presiding officer. It’s old-fashioned, but it works. It’s very rare for there to be any allegations of serious fraud of the kind alleged in the U.S. It’s only with some recent experiments in postal and electronic voting that a few problems have begun to emerge.
That is what we have in Alabama, yet many folks on this forum are certain that there was massive vote fraud in the recent election.
lol. That is because we lost. Both parties do this thing when the other loses. Suddenly mass fraud is going on. Kinda funny.
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