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Suspect, who recently lost his mother, had a troubled history
Sun Sentinal via msn ^ | 14 Febuary 2018 | Paula McMahon, Stephen Hobbs, Anne Geggis and Scott Travis

Posted on 02/14/2018 8:44:16 PM PST by blueplum

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To: blueplum

Sounds like BOTH mental cases were messed up from birth and that woman adopted nothing but trouble. Collect the brother before he goes off. The adoptive mother was lucky they didn’t murder her. No doubt they helped bring on her heart attack, so maybe, in the end, they did.


81 posted on 02/15/2018 7:19:12 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: taxesareforever

Not ignoring at all. Islam IS the home of mental cases-it’s no coincidence they identify with it. A diseased mind can only be furthered empowered by Islam. But, mentally ill this POS AND his brother, without a doubt, are. The brother should be detained immediately before HE goes off.


82 posted on 02/15/2018 7:24:42 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: polymuser

“So, is removal from society the most effective way to prevent these types of events? Should we reopen the 800,000 psych ward beds that were closed in the late 1970’s?”

Yes, removing these individuals from society is the only action that will prevent (some) of these attacks. A majority of those beds are still in use; the inmates now reside in prisons and jails all over the country. It is less humane to subject the crazies and the prison guards to a penal system that is not designed to systematically address mental health problems.

The number of violent psychopaths is small. We need to have a means of commitment that addresses those who are psychopaths before they act out. Having worked with hundreds of children and young adults, I have only encountered two such individuals. Everyone who was associated with them admitted they were very likely to commit murder or other violent crimes, yet they plod along the system abusing others for years before they were finally convicted of a crime. That’s if they get caught. Some are still preying upon society today and many won’t even be flagged as dangerous because they are minors.

As for the manifest dangers of institutions, those need to be addressed rationally, not because of some movie or any other emotion. These people are a danger to themselves and others, and they aren’t easily fixed. Most will never approach normalcy and that’s just reality. Pretending otherwise is what’s gotten us to this place.

I’m open to suggestions, just adding my opinion based on significantly more experience than most. If you haven’t spent time in jails, prisons, psych wards, and courts, count yourself blessed, but don’t assume standard operating procedures are applicable to abnormal psychology. There is no silver bullet; no easy, painless, or safe way to address it.


83 posted on 02/15/2018 8:03:31 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: antidisestablishment

Thanks for your reply, and for engaging in that field. Mirrors my opinion. Never an easy subject or solution. I suspected jail/prison eventually became the ill-equipped wards for many of them.

Mental illness handling is long overdue for a real, honest, objective discussion and fix.


84 posted on 02/15/2018 8:18:45 AM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Steely Tom; raygunfan
or are they going to scrub that and let this die out like the vegas shooting....

not on your life now they found a new angle - shep smith this am - 'suspect "brought up" by white nationalist leader'

now, what the headline should say is 'mentioned' but you know, 'brought up' plants the seed he was nurtured

so, yes, no Islam, no lybian chat room talks, but plenty of 'nationalist' will keep them going for at least another week

85 posted on 02/15/2018 12:40:32 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: antidisestablishment

You are correct.


86 posted on 02/17/2018 4:54:01 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: kabar; Extremely Extreme Extremist

From the article

“...Lynda, who died of pneumonia, adopted Nikolas the day he was born.

She also adopted his biological brother, the relative said. ...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3633032/posts

Vid says Nikolas’ brother was younger.

This means Nikolas’ mom knew his birth mom, and adopted the younger brother also.


87 posted on 02/17/2018 9:01:05 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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