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North Texas teacher dies after getting the flu
Chron ^ | February 6th 2018 | William Axford

Posted on 02/10/2018 4:50:57 PM PST by Ennis85

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To: TChris
"Damn there are some cold-blooded jerks on FR"

Hear! Hear! There are more than a few on this forum who like to think of themselves as upstanding Christians but have forgotten the words of Jesus: "I will have mercy upon the merciful." Cold-hearted bastards, I say.

221 posted on 02/10/2018 9:56:53 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; exDemMom

I’m afraid you’re WAY outclassed by ExDemMom as far as relevant educational and employment credentials.


222 posted on 02/10/2018 10:03:50 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Safetgiver

So sorry. Of course you’re in shock. Very sad.


223 posted on 02/10/2018 10:26:22 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: saintgermaine

Thank you.


224 posted on 02/10/2018 10:30:02 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Ennis85

So, what was the prescription she didn’t pick up supposed to be for? Definitely not for the flu. So don’t blame it on the flu.


225 posted on 02/11/2018 12:45:35 AM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: familyop

No, it couldn’t kill some people. I stand by getting one’s blood level of d at 60, higher if fighting something chronic, but your study does suggest too high, like 90-100, might be deleterious in cancer patients. Non conclusive. But if you do all the testing and titrating your vitamin D3 dosages, then retesting in two months, flu season will be over. So while one SHOULD Get the blood test now, supplement if you are under 60, and test again in 2 months, it’s a lot of work when supplementing 5000 IU should get you through flu season for the time being.

But if you have cancer, I’d say on the basis of your study, stick to only 5000 IU if you are NOT getting your blood levels tested.


226 posted on 02/11/2018 1:06:11 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: a fool in paradise
Holland got sick about a week ago and took medication, but delayed picking up the prescription due to the $116 copay

How did she “take medication” if sh didn’t pick up the prescription? Or did she wait until payday to pick up the prescription?

Article says she "took medication" - not "took the prescription medication." So she was probably swallowing aspirin, etc. - but allegedly didn't have enough money to purchase the high-powered perscription medication that, presumably, would have saved her.

Reading comprehension, sheesh!

Regards,

227 posted on 02/11/2018 1:13:45 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

“decided to forgo the prescription and self-medicated...” would be more accurate.

Or “delayed picking up the prescription and took it too late to be effective”

All is conjecture


228 posted on 02/11/2018 1:38:27 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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To: alexander_busek

Another article about this case quoted her husband as saying she was frugal on principle and wouldn’t buy the tamiflu. He said he ended up buying it and making her take it.


229 posted on 02/11/2018 1:49:29 AM PST by FreedomForce
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To: Yaelle

Safety and side effects
Taken in appropriate doses, vitamin D is generally considered safe.
However, taking too much vitamin D can be harmful. Children age 9 years and older, adults, and pregnant and breast-feeding women who take more than 4,000 IU a day of vitamin D might experience:
• Nausea
• Vomiting
• Poor appetite
• Constipation
• Weakness
• Weight loss
• Confusion
• Disorientation
• Heart rhythm problems
• Kidney damage

https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-vitamin-d/art-20363792?pg=2


230 posted on 02/11/2018 2:53:29 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: a fool in paradise

I have higher standards for myself.

I’m just an IT yo-yo in a factory.


231 posted on 02/11/2018 3:20:38 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: al_c
LOL!!! You obviously don’t know how teachers are paid in Texas. Not saying she couldn’t afford the Tamiflu, but teacher paychecks in Texas are not bloated.

Thank you!! This has been the most bizarre and insulting thread. I'm in my 22nd year of teaching in Texas. I take home less money year after year, despite some little pay increase on paper (though my upcoming monthly paycheck should reflect the DJT tax cut). The folks on this thread must have Texas teachers confused with unionized Yankee teachers. LOL! 😂

232 posted on 02/11/2018 5:06:37 AM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Vitamin D3 5,000IU prevents the flu.

Bullshit.

Show me the actual studies that prove that claim.


233 posted on 02/11/2018 5:16:53 AM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: Cvengr
Not this year.

ACIP Says No to LAIV for 2017-18 Flu Season

234 posted on 02/11/2018 5:20:27 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: plain talk

“...has a lot of side-effects. ...”

My doc prescribed 500mg Levofloxacin. I paid 110.00. When I got it home I looked up the side effects and said ‘no way’!


235 posted on 02/11/2018 6:09:06 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: EnquiringMind

That’s when your body over reacts ...”

That’s pretty much how the 1918 Spanish flu killed so many people.


236 posted on 02/11/2018 6:19:06 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: vetvetdoug
What I've seen here is a myriad of witch's brews and quackery.

Indeed, thank you.

I try to counter the quackery when I can. Some of it is fairly harmless (e.g. spending twice as much on food labeled organic, even though it is indistinguishable from other food) and I leave that alone. But where quackery can endanger people's lives and even prevent them from seeking medical attention, I step in with real information.

237 posted on 02/11/2018 6:21:32 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; steve86
I’m afraid you’re WAY outclassed by ExDemMom as far as relevant educational and employment credentials.

Indeed, thank you, steve86. I think that during the course of my studies to earn a Ph.D. in biochemistry and molecular biology, I spent significantly more time on studying the actions of biomolecules and mechanisms of viral infection and replication. I also spent some time on learning the function of the immune system, although that learning was more directed to the production of antibodies for research.

On top of that, I have had to become an influenza guru during my professional career. So I know a fair amount about the virus and various countermeasures.

238 posted on 02/11/2018 6:27:30 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Qiviut

“She loved helping people, helping the kids, and the kids loved her,” .........

Too bad someone didn’t care enough to help her OR, perhaps she never though to ask for help. Sad ending for a young person to die that way. If she had been on welfare or an illegal, she would have gotten the meds for free.


239 posted on 02/11/2018 6:46:28 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37

Too bad someone didn’t care enough to help her OR, perhaps she never though to ask for help. Sad ending for a young person to die that way. If she had been on welfare or an illegal, she would have gotten the meds for free.

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She went to the doctor who gave her a prescription - could have been for Tamiflu (which at that point wouldn’t have helped her much - needs to be taken 36-48 hours after symptoms start or upon exposure) and/or for other meds, maybe even antibiotics. She delayed getting her meds because of a COPAY so she obviously had some sort of insurance.

The flu virus can cause viral pneumonia and in some people, it results in a particularly severe inflammation of the lungs. Oxygen rates drop quickly and death results. This flu season it appears some people are dying within a day or two of being diagnosed with the flu so this is a particularly fast process and many are being caught by surprise. I think this poor woman’s “fate” was already sealed, whether she had meds or not. Being a virus, antibiotics at this point aren’t helpful (my aunt just died of complications from viral pneumonia this past May) & Tamiflu mostly reduces the duration of the flue by a couple of days, but not for something like this.


240 posted on 02/11/2018 7:06:43 AM PST by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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