Posted on 02/07/2018 9:38:55 AM PST by markomalley
Wasn’t Obunghole’s priority the further expansion of college education?
Also known as Making America Great Again!
The “college for all” crowd destroyed what we used to call vo-tech programs, dating back to Bill Clinton and fueled the unsustainable student loan debacle and spiraling college costs.
My peers in my office are an average age of 58. Every new hire has been dismissed after repeated attempts to unwittingly kill themselves.
Industrial Electrical controls and systems are where the rubber meets the road. At nights and on weekends it is just you. When machines become silent, you must perform tasks that require speed and safe practice to regain production. Machines so large they require their own sub station in the city to supply power to.
Our only new hires have been those over 50 who could pass the tests and perform safely under their six month observation period.
I went to a high school that pushed college prep almost exclusively.
At least half of my class had no interest in going. That included me.
Some kind of split between academia and learning a useful skill set would have been wonderful.
Betsy DeVos has quiet support among minority education advocates. Shh! I know this from several people here I am acquainted with in L.A. — who, while NOT Trump supporters, at the very least voiced optimism about DeVos even during her confirmation process. A lot of her policies resonate — as its kids in underprivilegeed circumstances who’ve lost out the most from the business-as-usual public school monopoly model.
There is a massive need for skilled workers.
Not some dum-dums, that managed to stay awake in a few classes.
For an electrician working on my house, I want skilled and knowledgeable.
I worked with an engineer that often said, it was shop class that ‘saved him’.
I knew two attorneys, passed the bar exam...working as tradesmen.
Both Irish and had fathers in the trade.
Was common for the sons to work with the father in the summer if school didn’t work out they had a backup.
Yes I can remember auto shops and vocational Ed programs in high school. I remember some students who were on the “work program” who took some classes in the morning, then were out working the rest of the day.
Sometimes we reinvent the wheel don’t we? Years ago we had the types of programs being touted as great new ideas.
the smarter than thou useless overeducated academia convinced all parents that their children need to be teachers lawyers and doctors, the parents believed them hence we have student debt thru the roof and life long students who couldn’t make the grade and are still enrolled in college, we all know some of them. Vocational trade has gotten the “no not my child” stigma yet many children are geared toward this and would do well there’s just a refusal by educators to include this in their curriculum choices. koodos to president Trump on this. Its all about learning a trade and making a good livin
these are laudable goals, but unless and until we rid the public schools of Common Core and the anti American indoctrination, we will never move forward as a nation.
Not the way we should anyway.
Those are the problems that need to be dealt with. It’s disappointing that DeVos ran away from it.
The government needs to get out of the education business once and for all.
PERIOD.
We had an electrician out several weeks back. He had a young female apprentice with him. She was keen to learn.
And then those who went straight to a good job after HS got 4-6 years of an earnings head start compared to their college-bound peers, which is nothing to sneeze at. And probably matured faster, dealing with real life.
And nobody talks too much about money, but some plumbers and electricians make more than some MBA or lawyers.
I wonder where the idea came from, that everyone should go to college. So many college degrees don’t really prepare you for a job or career path. Somehow people got the idea that any college education is better than none.
I think Coding Boot Camps should be a priority! $2,000 for a 12-16 week course! And yes give qualified Kids the Camp for Free! Now compare that to traditional college education costs! This would be a great ROI! Where I work there are 20 of US and 80 Indians here on HB visas!
No wonder the elite and over educated liberals controlling our colleges and universities hate President Trump.
Excellent summary of what President Trump is doing re education in America.
Americans working with their hands again, getting them ready to replaced all the Illegals who are leaving, being forced to leave or won’t be coming anymore.
Also known as Making America Great Again!
“Where I work there are 20 of US and 80 Indians here on HB visas”
Is that because there are no American coders, or because the Indians work cheap?
That is, is your company just trying to survive, or are they selling out their countrymen to improve the bottom line?
I’m not entirely convinced that there is a real coder shortage, because I taught myself C, C++, Basic, and some assembly language back in the early 1990s.
If I can do that, I think you could turn a high school graduate into an entry-level coder in a year. Maybe less.
This is sooooo long overdue. Not every kid needs to go to college. Most kids probably dont need to go to college. A marketable skill is worth so much more than a four year degree.
The whole liberal arts crap is such a fraud. College should be prep for professional degrees, eg medicine, law, etc.
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