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Trump expected to release Nunes memo WITHOUT redactions, White House says
Washington Examiner ^

Posted on 02/01/2018 1:46:25 PM PST by bryan999

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To: Signalman
Knowing DJT, I think he’s going to hold to unredacted.

Knowing our President we would have seen a tweet on it by now.

Guess he is wanting to look more presidential by keeping the outcome from the We the People.

#releasethememounredacted

121 posted on 02/02/2018 3:00:58 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: Cboldt
My read of the House rule is that the House is the entity that is effectively declassifying, but the president has a form of veto (that can be over-ridden) in that he can object to the public disclosure.

He does. He can tell Congress that he refuses to allow the confidential information to be released. What he can't do is say "I agree with releasing A but not B." Trump could send if back and request changes but he can't make them.

122 posted on 02/02/2018 4:00:01 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
-- What he can't do is say "I agree with releasing A but not B." Trump could send if back and request changes but he can't make them. --

So your point is that the president can't do the "clerical work" of redacting.

123 posted on 02/02/2018 4:12:29 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: DoodleDawg
-- What he can't do is say "I agree with releasing A but not B." Trump could send if back and request changes but he can't make them. --

So your point is that the president can't do the "clerical work" of redacting.

Addendum: Maybe you're reinforcing an assertion that the president is put in an all or nothing box. You say "What he can't do is say 'I agree with releasing A but not B.'"

Can the president object to the release of part of what is sent to him? What does "law states" say about that? Please give a citation to the "the law" that pertains. I think that might be helpful to sort all this out.

124 posted on 02/02/2018 4:17:22 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Can the president object to the release of part of what is sent to him? What does "law states" say about that?

If the President objects to any part then he sends it back. What he can't do is take what Congress sent him, make his own changes, and then release it. Only Congress can change it.

Please give a citation to the "the law" that pertains. I think that might be helpful to sort all this out.

Not law, Congressional rule. Specifically Rule X, Clause 11(g)(1):"The select committee may disclose publicly any information in its possession after a determination by the select committee that the public interest would be served by such disclosure." The clause continues on with the process for the disclosure.

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125 posted on 02/02/2018 4:36:03 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
I knew that rule, posted it to FR on Wednesday morning. You referred in your post to "the law" so I thought maybe you had something else.

-- What he can't do is take what Congress sent him, make his own changes, and then release it. ... The clause continues on with the process for the disclosure. --

If the process culminating in public disclosure stays within the procedure defined in the House rules, there is nothing in there that has the president disclosing it to the public. He is given the right to produce reasoned objection to public disclosure (which of course is not all or nothing), along with a certification.

If the president returns a reasoned objection with the appropriate certification, the process bifurcates to either "drop the attempt at disclosing to the public what the president objects to" or "give the entire house a chance to vote on public disclosure of the material the president objects to disclosing."

Looking outside the procedure, the president can publicly disclose whatever he wants to.

Referring to your original post ...

The White House can't redact it. The law states that the White House has to sign off on classified info before it's released. That means sign off on what gets sent.
The implication I took from that is "all or nothing." That his sign off or response is to what the house presents to him, which is what I think the "what is sent" represents.

Not that it matters for clearing up the "all or nothing" question, technically under the rule, it is absence of objection - he does not have to "sign off." Silence is approval. Of course it is best for the record that he returns a "no objection" response of some sort. If I was him, my response would include a statement that he cannot certify "that the threat to the national interest of the United States posed by the disclosure is of such gravity that it outweighs any public interest in the disclosure."

126 posted on 02/02/2018 5:00:03 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: bryan999
WHERE IS IT?
127 posted on 02/02/2018 6:55:33 AM PST by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service ... #ReleaseTheMemo)
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To: bryan999

Release it NOW !!!
What The Hell the delays


128 posted on 02/02/2018 7:32:57 AM PST by Orlando
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To: raiderboy

I suspect that General Kelly was not doing anything that President Trump wanted him to do. I think this was a gambit to give Rosenstein and Wray a chance to end their rebellion against Trump.

They did not, so now the memo gets released with all names out in the open.


129 posted on 02/02/2018 7:40:15 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Cboldt

Yeah, what BS. The bastards are good at it and rely on the fools to believe it because most of the fools want to believe it.


130 posted on 02/02/2018 7:54:20 AM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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